London commuting.

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by ianrauk, 5 May 2016.

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  1. tatr

    tatr Well-Known Member

    The only way to reduce the number of cars is by making journey times longer so people choose another form of transport.

    Reducing the number and speed of cars makes it easier to go about your business as a pedestrian or cyclist.

    So that sounds like it's been a success.
     
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  2. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    Londonist inside a cycle hire depot:

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByYNhtokbbs
     
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    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

  4. jahlive905

    jahlive905 Active Member

    Anyone else bummed out that the window where Tooley street was only for cyclists is over? It used to be so fun and quick whizzing along there. Now it's bumper to bumper with lots of HGVs and peds to contend with. And a ridiculous number of traffic lights too. Boo.
     
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    ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah

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    Window? Do you mean the bus lane entrance to Tooley Street or the segregated bike path??
     
  6. jahlive905

    jahlive905 Active Member

    A window as in a time frame. See this page.

    "Tuesday 3 May 2016 until 2018 – road users

    Tooley Street is closed to eastbound traffic from Borough High Street to Bermondsey Street."

    That was bliss. But I've just checked and it's only temporary:

    "Tooley Street will temporarily reopen to two-way traffic from 18:00 on Saturday 24 February until mid-March 2018."

    So during mid-March to May the cars should be gone again :dance:
     
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    ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah

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    Ah right, so you mean it's now reverted back to normal 2 way traffic.
     
  8. smutchin

    smutchin Cat 6 Racer

    Location:
    The Red Enclave
    Mixed feelings on that one. I didn't much like the segregated bike lane because it seemed slightly too narrow and you'd always get some twerp (usually a courier) trying to overtake you even if there wasn't room. Not to mention the hazard of pavement lemmings - always a problem when there's nowhere to escape to due to being fenced in.

    On the other hand, it was nicer than fighting for space and air alongside the buses etc.
     
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  9. jahlive905

    jahlive905 Active Member


    View: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gohSeOYheXg
     
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  10. BalkanExpress

    BalkanExpress Veteran

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    Do the CSs get gritted. I ask because I’ve here in Brussels they have some new mintractors that clear and then salt the main cycle paths. It’s snowing at the moment :cold:so I expect they will be out later.

    Then do need a bit of fine tuning, the salt seems to come out in batches that makes cornering occasionally interesting:ohmy:
     
  11. StuAff

    StuAff Silencing his legs regularly

    Location:
    Portsmouth
    Nope, at least not the separate/off-road sections. The Christmas FNRttC had to be aborted because of black ice. We were on Cable Street (CS3) when a few of us nearly came a cropper, on the path not the road, and we were warning other cyclists who came along when one chap didn't take heed, and went down hard. Stragglers of That Not London tiptoed round to St Pancras to keep warmer for a few hours. When I made my way back down to Guildford for a train home (set off 4.47, I wasn't going to wait for the first train from Waterloo) I kept to the road & went for A-roads rather than lanes.
     
  12. Pete Owens

    Pete Owens Well-Known Member

    I think what you are seeing there is the effect of Ken Livingstone. The only individual policy that can definitely be seen on the graph is the congestion charge producing a significant dip in private car use. But there followed a whole raft of pro-people transport policies (or anti-car in the right wing press), and Ken was one of the few politicians to have the courage to go with them. When Boris came in he was full "end-the-war-on-motorists" rhetoric - and his first actions were abandoning the extension of the congestion charge, reducing the pedestrian crossing time at lights and letting other vehicles into bus lanes. It takes time for the change of policy to start impacting on the streets and some of Ken's programs (such as the "Boris" bikes) were retained, but by 2012 you can see the graphs levelling off.
     
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    ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah

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    Hopefully a new pedestrian/cycle bridge across the Thames is on it's way

    London river crossings: TfL planning construction timeline for Rotherhithe-Canary Wharf pedestrian and cycling bridge
    by Rebecca Smith

    21 March 2018


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    The aim is for a crossing to provide an alternative for the Jubilee Line (Source: TfL)
    Plans for a new river crossing in east London were given a boost today with the backing of Londoners, so Transport for London (TfL) will now draw up more detailed designs and a construction timeline.

    The results of a consultation on the Rotherhithe to Canary Wharf bridge that will provide a pedestrian and cycling route across the Thames were published this morning, with 93 per cent of the 6,093 responses in favour of the new crossing.

    TfL’s provisional preferred option of a navigable bridge was supported by 85 per cent of responses to the consultation, and the northern alignment between Nelson Dock and Westferry Circus got the strongest support.

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    (Source: TfL)


    The development would link existing and planned cycle routes on both sides of the river, and is aimed at fuelling sustainable growth in east London, Canada Water and the Isle of Dogs by providing a useful alternative to the Jubilee Line.

    At present, pedestrians and cyclists don't have many spots where they can cross the river east of Tower Bridge easily and safely - restricting access to key destinations such as Canary Wharf and Canada Water.

    TfL said the Greenwich Foot Tunnel is already operating at capacity at peak times and the Rotherhithe Tunnel is regularly avoided by pedestrians and cyclists due to the dominance of traffic and narrow footways.

    Deputy mayor for transport, Val Shawcross, said:

    I’m delighted that thousands of people took part in the consultation, and have given us such overwhelming support for a new walking and cycling crossing between Rotherhithe and Canary Wharf.

    With its growing population, a new river crossing is much needed in this part of East London, providing vital new connections for residents, businesses and commuters around Canary Wharf. Our plans should enable thousands more people to make walking and cycling a part of their everyday lives, improving life for everyone.

    Gareth Powell, managing director of surface transport at TfL, said: “We are now working with Atkins, our design and engineering consultants, and local stakeholders to develop an accessible and achievable crossing that links to new and proposed walking and cycling routes on both sides of the river.”
     
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  14. Dec66

    Dec66 Veteran

    Location:
    West Wickham
    Smashing. It might even stop people cycling through the Greenwich Foot Tunnel.

    *runs away*
     
  15. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    I suspect it depends where on the north side they're going. TfL could probably test the effect by setting a cyclist fare of zero on the ferry (is it about £4 at the moment?) although that's still not going to be as attractive as a bridge.
     
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