London commuting.

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by ianrauk, 5 May 2016.

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  1. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    Trucks weren't the first motor vehicle anyway. But I still didn't suggest that. I just said it was plausible.

    Linking ain't a breach of copyright.
     
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  2. spen666

    spen666 Guru


    Erm actually it may be - but as its on a pay site, a link would be no use to you as you could not access it in any event



    Yes
     
  3. toffee

    toffee Über Member

    Went through a tunnel in Rotterdam this year, took the bikes down the escalator. Bit hairy as it was fully loaded.
    Not us by the way but the same tunnel - The Maastunnel


    View: https://youtu.be/NX7B92O0bbc


     
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  4. subaqua

    subaqua Guru

    Location:
    Leytonstone

    theres not much rock in london strata. clay mostly which is quite easy to bore through. but that part of the river is alluvial which is rather soft .

    ( I am not a geology expert but currently sat in our Head office next to the tunnelling division ( well Civils) )
     
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  5. Mile195

    Mile195 Über Member

    Location:
    West Kent
    ooops. I appear to have opened a small can of worms.
    I didn't intend to imply there was ever any restriction on motor vehicles. And indeed there probably never was - I think it was open to all before the 1960's (I saw a documentary a while ago which showed the specially built bus they had for taking bikes through the tunnel just after it was changed to motorised use only). But what I meant was, to restore use of the blackwall tunnel to non-motorised traffic as well as whatever else.
    Anyway, it's a moot point because it'll never happen.
    The cable car can be used by cycles which is close enough to the blackwall tunnel to ensure there is never a case for opening the blackwall tunnel to bikes. Although at £9 a go (or £1.70 if you can commit to using 10 trips over the year) I think I would find it a little frivolous to commute using it every day if I needed to go that way.
     
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    ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah

    Location:
    Atop a Ti
    Cash fare is £4.50 or £3.50 if you use your Oyster/Contactless
     
  7. tatr

    tatr Well-Known Member

    I tend to avoid the cable car because I don't like the black looks you get when walking past the tourist ticket queue directly to the oyster gate, even though that's what you are supposed to do according to the staff.
     
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    ianrauk

    ianrauk Tattooed Beat Messiah

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    Doesn't bother me in the slightest. And the staff are very helpful and cyclist friendly.
     
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  9. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

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    from http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/of...-use-in-london-set-to-overtake-car-use/022268

    Blimey. Stuff's working. At a guess 2003 congestion charge, 2010 cycle hire docks, 2008-2012ish first wave CS, and we wait to see if we can spot 2016ish second wave CS (EW and NS).
     
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  10. NickNick

    NickNick Well-Known Member

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  11. Lonestar

    Lonestar Rat Run Cyclist

    Location:
    CS 2 and CS 3
    Just came back from commute on the CS 3 and the cops were there on the junction of Leman St/Dock street and CS 3/Cable Street...A car had hit the bridge parapet and the car looked totalled.Even the passenger doors were gone.How bloody hard did he hit it?

    It looks like it's been scrapped on the spot.

    Wasn't there on the commute in.These Weekend commutes are getting madder and madder.
     
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  12. MossCommuter

    MossCommuter Guru

    Location:
    Irlam (Salford)
    Maybe the emergency services caused most damage extracting the occupants
     
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  13. Lonestar

    Lonestar Rat Run Cyclist

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    CS 2 and CS 3
    Good point.Thanks.:okay:

    I did think it was a bit strange but I have been up since 2am (and been down to Bournemouth):blush:
     
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  14. SkipdiverJohn

    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

    Location:
    London
    No, it isn't working at all. The total number of vehicles has actually declined, yet the traffic congestion and journey times are WORSE now than before the congestion charge came in! How can worsening congestion and making it more difficult for people to go about their business possibly be regarded as a success? The Mayor and TfL are a complete bunch of muppets.
     
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  15. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    I don't know what numbers you're using... oh, wait, you're not using any :tongue: We used to call that proof by, err, shall we say vigorous handwaving.

    The numbers of people (not vehicles) has remained similar since the congestion charge encouraged about 20k through motorists to fark off. It's just that the mix has changed for the better. That's a success.
     
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