Lorry with build in table kills cyclist.

Drago

Flouncing Nobber
This not in any way a comment on the doctor's death, just one on your post above.
Here's a driver who reacted pretty well to sudden circumstances. Some will say that he should have anticipated the event because there was a school bus ahead. My personal opinion is that we should take a tiny bit of responsibility for our own safety on the road and not delegate it to others because of a sense of righteousness, whether as a pedestrian , cyclist, or even car driver. If you do, you might get avoidably hurt.
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Good point, well made.

However, the example cited in the video also shows a lorry driver not driving at a speed appropriate to his lack of view through a solid bus, so perhaps not the best.
 

theclaud

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This not in any way a comment on the doctor's death, just one on your post above.
Here's a driver who reacted pretty well to sudden circumstances. Some will say that he should have anticipated the event because there was a school bus ahead. My personal opinion is that we should take a tiny bit of responsibility for our own safety on the road and not delegate it to others because of a sense of righteousness, whether as a pedestrian , cyclist, or even car driver. If you do, you might get avoidably hurt.
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It's just as well his reactions and control are good, as he's driving too fast. Had he been going half the speed, the video would be altogether less hair-raising. As you say, it's not rocket science to anticipate children near a stopped school bus. And no, I don't think schoolchildren are responsible for preventing lorry drivers running them over. I think we have a collective responsibility not to kill them with heavy machinery, and that that responsibility is absolute.
 
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Skanker

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In the US most states have a 'stop law' that requires traffic behind and in front to stop when a school bus is dropping off passengers. They are not all bad.
That’s a superb law!
We could do with that in the uk as children are injured/killed outside schools way too often, even with the slow driving speed limits we have in place currently.
 

Drago

Flouncing Nobber
Death by Careless is a travesty. Even if you're driving sensibly it can still be Dangerous Driving simply because your vehicle is in a poor or inappropriate state.

BTW, he's a bit of a mess considering he's the same age as me. Is that what driving a lorry does to you?
 
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You make a choice to drive a vehicle with an illegal modification and in such a way that kill's someone and some how that's just being careless. Oh came on it's total madness dropping crumbs all over the carpet after you've just cleaned up is careless. This is a human life we are talking about.
 
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Unfortunately its not illegal to sell illegal add on's to vehicles.
Rings true.

Years ago (this was before the compact mobile age) at a trade exhibition I came across a company selling a full size computer keyboard (nice moving clicking keys as well) built into a steering wheel.

"Isn't it dangerous?" I asked the proud distributor.

Not at all he reckoned.

I never figured out why you would want such a thing.
 
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