Missing from radar screen - One Boeing 777

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Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Guy on bbc said it was pos shot down by military as a rouge aircraft.
 

Brandane

Legendary Member
The debris from Pan Am 103 was spread over an 80-odd mile corridor, with some being found over on the east coast of England, so I would expect that if a similar fate has befallen the Malaysia flight, such evidence will not take much longer to find - even at sea.

GC

This is the baffling bit about the Malaysian flight. If it disintegrated in mid air, then there would surely be items floating in the sea such as lifejackets, insulation material, items of luggage etc..
On the other hand, if it didn't suffer some catastrophe at cruising height, then why was no message passed to ground controllers about a problem?
Just out of interest, what was your involvement at Lockerbie, if allowed to divulge?
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
The BBC said it, so it must be true. Innit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26527439
I don't doubt that it might have changed direction. The bit that I found fanciful was DM's suggestion - not mentioned by the Beeb! - that it might have been shot down by the military. The explanation for most plane disappearances nowadays is that they have crashed somewhere that they didn't think they were, and as a result of half a dozen things going wrong one after the other - most of them human error.
 

ScotiaLass

Guru
Location
Middle Earth
I was directly involved in the immediate aftermath at Lockerbie and remember asking one of the pathologists about the likelihood of passengers being aware of their situation. She explained that there would be an initial loss of consciousness due to lack of oxygen then, after falling between 5,500 to 11,000 feet, some people would have regained conciousness for the remainder of their descent. The first body I came across was that of Suzanne Miazga, who had landed on her back on the narrow grass strip right at the door of the ambulance station.

The debris from Pan Am 103 was spread over an 80-odd mile corridor, with some being found over on the east coast of England, so I would expect that if a similar fate has befallen the Malaysia flight, such evidence will not take much longer to find - even at sea.

GC
:sad:
 
I don't really care whether flying is 'more dangerous' than walking, and I'm not trying to prove anything. My point is simply that airlines always use one particular measurement because other methods give very different results.
The risks are still tiny for everything except cycling in the rush hour and motorbiking, neither of which I do any more.

Are you saying biking is more dangerous than flying? More planes have crashed into the ground than bikes have collided with the sky, nuff said.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
More planes have crashed into the ground than bikes have collided with the sky, nuff said.
I don't know, I've collided with the sky twice, and I'm just one cyclist ...
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
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The risks are still tiny for everything except cycling in the rush hour and motorbiking, neither of which I do any more.
Yes I know I said I'd stop the diversion, but I can't let this one pass. Rush hour cycling isn't particularly dangerous - there's a safety in numbers effect, and most of last year's London cluster of deaths happened outside peak time. And because this is the caff I'm going to invoke rule zero - I don't have to provide evidence.
 
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