Move Wider for Rider-Boot stickers

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by CXRAndy, 9 Mar 2019.

  1. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Following on from/Inspired by the Australian one...
    Stayin Alive.jpg

    I've had the "Give Cyclists Room" enlarged to three foot, then used two cycling through Manchester.

    If the one in the pdf were printed, what'd be the cost, and how big an uptake?
     
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  2. SkipdiverJohn

    SkipdiverJohn Über Member

    Location:
    London
    I don't get where the 1.5m thing has come from. It's not realistic on many roads, and no motorist is going to sit behind a cyclist riding @12mph for miles just because they've only got 3 feet of clearance. A bit of realism & common sense is required here. How close is safe depends on how fast the vehicle which is passing you is going. I'm not bothered about 2ft passes at low urban traffic speeds, it's the ones doing 40 or 50 mph on main roads which create wind turbulence that cause the problem.
     
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  3. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

    Location:
    Oop North (ish)
    Couldn't agree more, it came from Oz I think where the roads are mooosive so easy to give 1.5M but some still didn't. There was a thread on here a while ago where I argued in vain that it wasn't feasible in the UK, it would be nice, but not feasible, what about a car coming towards you, on some of the roads I ride you can't get 1.5M clearance even if I rode in the gutter, but as long as they slow down I have no issue.
     
  4. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    Thing is, if you were in a car whilst being passed, the vehicle passing would have to move away from the edge of the road just to pass. Or even wait until there was room to pass.

    On a bicycle on the road, you're place is in the gutter. Therefore you don't matter.
     
  5. hobo

    hobo Über Member

    It's a new law that came into force last year in Australia.
     
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  6. hobo

    hobo Über Member

  7. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

    Location:
    Oop North (ish)
    Yes I fully understand that, but also how will cycle lanes work?
     
  8. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    Cycle lanes should be 2-3m wide, so aren't a problem for this.
     
  9. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    Not sure which one you mean, but I hate the "share the road" ever since having a motorist bawling at me to "share the road" because I dared take primary/control position in "his" lane on the approach to a crossing island.
     
  10. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    You say realism, I say defeatism. Let's ask for 5ft and we might get 2 or 3. If we ask for 2ft, we'll only get 6 inches, yet again, while the driver and the following one swear blind it was 2ft.

    And yes, on small roads, they'll have to sit behind awhile. Not for miles. Just until there's a safe passing place.
     
  11. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

    Location:
    Oop North (ish)
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  12. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

  13. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

    Location:
    Oop North (ish)
    The campaign is fine, it's the implementation that is unrealistic
     
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  14. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    Why? Are you against drivers having to wait for a safe gap to overtake cyclists, regardless of what nonsense some incompetent councils paint on roads?
     
  15. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

    Location:
    Oop North (ish)
    You're not interested in what I think & you're thread hi-jacking so I'll not answer
     
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