Mudguards without chainstay bridge, but...

[Boopop]

Mudguards installed, thanks for the reassurance everyone. The rear went on relatively easily, it did seem at first there wasn't enough clearance for the front (the 28c tyres that came with this bike actually measure about 31c), but I managed to work it out. I did have to go a bit neolithic on the front mount. I may put actual 28c's on it when these wear out. Anyway I'm happy with the look of it. I'll trim down the stays on the front guard (only just finished) when the sound of cutting metal with the dremel isn't going to upset neighbours so much!

 

[Dag Hammar]

Hi Boopop. I like the look of your new mudguards. I have a very old pair that look like those on my Claud Butler and I would be interested in a new pair if ( 1 ) They’re reasonably priced and ( 2 ) suitable for old style 27” wheels.
I’d be grateful if you would provide the details / seller. Thank you.

 

[Boopop]

Hi Boopop. I like the look of your new mudguards. I have a very old pair that look like those on my Claud Butler and I would be interested in a new pair if ( 1 ) They’re reasonably priced and ( 2 ) suitable for old style 27” wheels.
I’d be grateful if you would provide the details / seller. Thank you.

These are "just" silver SKS Chromoplastics, but for 700c wheels. I've had a quick look though and I'm not sure you can get them for 27" wheels. Would gladly have someone prove me wrong though!

 

[Ajax Bay]

I did have to go a bit neolithic on the front mount.

I failed to mention that I also file the slot down by several mm (ie closer to the guard) to maximise clearance. Good job on cutting the top bit off.

it did seem at first there wasn't enough clearance for the front (the 28c tyres that came with this bike actually measure about 31c), but I managed to work it out.

A word of caution: the clearance might seem sufficient for the wheel rotation on the stand but you may find that, loaded, you've lost that tolerance. If so, use these "28s" on another bike and get a set which, inflated to xx psi, measure 28mm!
I discovered this overnight on D3 of my end-to-end (near Lancaster) after I'd had to replace a tyre with an hour to go. Was getting rubbing. Cut the bottom 6" of the rear guard away. Sorted. Till at 7am I rode out loaded (me and 6kg rack bag) to find immediatly the rubbing was back. Off wheel, off guard. Ride on (226km that day!)

 

[Dag Hammar]

These are "just" silver SKS Chromoplastics, but for 700c wheels. I've had a quick look though and I'm not sure you can get them for 27" wheels. Would gladly have someone prove me wrong though!

Thank you for your reply. I will investigate the possibilities, see what SKS can offer.

 

[Ajax Bay]

suitable for old style 27” wheels.

27" wheels are ETRTO 630mm v '700c' = 622mm. So the 'top of the tyre' radius can be close to the same: 27" wheels with 25s on will be 'the same' as 700c with a 28 on. The guards will fit both: assumes the frame has clearance for a guard and tyre (of selected width/height).
https://www.merlincycles.com/sks-chromoplastic-mudguards-700c-road-55368.html @ £36

 

[ColinJ]

If clearance under mudguards is tight, make sure to clean under them regularly. I wore a tyre (and myself!!) out in one ride by ignoring the issue. Gritty packed muddy debris acted as a brake acting on the rear tyre.

 

[Boopop]

Well, it survived a club ride, although it looks like I need to tighten the stays on the front guard

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I’d stick a washer under the bolt head

 

[Dag Hammar]

27" wheels are ETRTO 630mm v '700c' = 622mm. So the 'top of the tyre' radius can be close to the same: 27" wheels with 25s on will be 'the same' as 700c with a 28 on. The guards will fit both: assumes the frame has clearance for a guard and tyre (of selected width/height).
https://www.merlincycles.com/sks-chromoplastic-mudguards-700c-road-55368.html @ £36

Thank you Ajax Bay, that’s useful information. The reason for my caution is that many years ago I bought from Halfords and fitted a pair of mudguards to my daughter’s bike. The wheels on her Raleigh Zest are 26” and I must assume that the ‘guards are of 700c type as they do not follow the curvature of her rear wheel by quite a margin and look a bit ‘odd’.

On a side note, I do have a very old pair of the same type of mudguards that Boopop has fitted that came off of a Dawes bike that I no longer own. If I could find the time and make the effort I’m thinking I could clean and then lightly sand them and then get a can of spray paint ( or enamel ) and refurbish those.

 

[Ajax Bay]

I’d stick a washer under the bolt head

Me too. You want as much contact area as possible.

 

[si_c]

Well, it survived a club ride, although it looks like I need to tighten the stays on the front guard

Probably needs a little bit of thread lock. I'd also consider dropping the tyre size to 25c - my Trek nominally will fit 28s with guards but the reality is they rub like a bastard so dropping a size is needed.

 

[Boopop]

Probably needs a little bit of thread lock. I'd also consider dropping the tyre size to 25c - my Trek nominally will fit 28s with guards but the reality is they rub like a bastard so dropping a size is needed.

I tightened the stays with plyers first time round, woops. Did a better job this time with a spanner. Just done another ride this lunch time and the wheels are running nice and smooth.

Washer installed too on the front guard's tab 👍

 

[fossyant]

Plyers near a bike

 

[Ajax Bay]

Things pliers are useful for in bike maintenance:

• Holding the end of a cable to get proper tension on it before clamping (locking pliers ftw),
• Crimping the cable end caps, if one keeps cutting them too deeply with cable cutters,
• Needle nosed ones, maybe, to reach in and grab,
• Sliding joint pliers, maybe, for dias over 40mm if correct tool not possessed.

a little bit of thread lock.

Two minds on this, for guard stays at the guard end. I don't because I expect to need to adjust occasionally. Use for the dropout fastener.