Myths and Rebuttals

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Acesand8s

Regular
Location
Colorado Springs
Yes thats right. So when we have a new president if he or she wants they could terminate all weed sales in CO.
 

Enis Baysal

Senior Member
Location
Essex Romford
Not many will agree but im finding myself fighting fire with fire more often.. if they are ignorant im getting my message across.

Myth: Hey a biker! Im going to change lanes and cut him up within inches.

Rebuttal: Give the wingmirror a slap at the next set of lights so it faces the wrong way.

My reasons for this.. causes no damage, seriously pisses them off, and once in a blue moon makes them think twice.
As tesco say, Every little helps.
 

Das

Regular
Location
West Lothian
Cyclists don't pay road tax either...

Why do you want me to pay something no one else does?.


Car drivers pay insurance in case they cause an accident. Cyclists do not.

Really? Give British Cycling a call and ask them how many Members they have.....


Car drivers have to have their vehicles prepared to a minimum safety standard. Cyclists do not.

True, but do a Freedom of Information Request to the Police and ask them how many Motorists were reported for not having their vehicles on the road with a valid MOT and get back to me.


Motorists do have to be trained and assessed as qualified to use the roads. Cyclists do not.

Aye? So whats your excuse?
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I've spent some years now working on a response scenario for such a situation.

Now whenever someone says to me "cyclists don't[insert cliche]" I reply "shut the f*** up!"

Well, in my mind I do.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
"Why don't you pay some road tax?"

"Why don't you pay higher rate income tax like I do?"

It usually leaves them floundering for a response.
 

Svendo

Guru
Location
Walsden
I think 'Mericans usage to distinguish different varieties of the cannabis plant is that 'cannabis'='hemp' (low THC, for fibre or bio fuel or just ditch weed) or (possibly resin) and 'Mari-juana'=cannabis (but not resin) grown for drug content. But strictly speaking it is all hemp and it is all cannabis, although nearly everyone uses MaryJ. to refer to drug-varieties. Some of this usage is enshrined in different legal codes and that, but isn't botanically accurate, as cannabis is the family with 3 species/subspecies that for the most usage are hybridized.

FWI the flowers (buds) of all varieties (except maybe the modern commercial specialist fibre varieties*) will get you high, but with different efficiencies and limits. Resin should be stronger than herbal when properly made, as it is basically a refining process, and can get very strong when screens and water techniques are used.

*this may be propoganda to keep hippies and students out of fields.
 

noodle

Active Member
Location
northern monkey
How about....don't rise to it?

Does seem to me as a "newbie" that there is a strong element in cycling of "wanting to be ****ed off at drivers". It's a shame because as a "car driver" I had heard that cyclists hate motorists and loved any exscuse to scream and argue with them but didn't really believe it. From what I have seen though, cyclists hate motorists far more than the other way round.

I say live and let live, if someone insults you, grow up and stop memorising certain portions of the highway code for goodness sake...

The only way cyclists/motorists/horses/pedestrians will be able to use the roads in harmony is by not being aggressive, either in the start, or in rebuttal.

im not new as such never really stopped riding but after seeing some of the vitriol towards motorists AND facilities laid out for cyclists AND laws pertaining to the use of such facilities ive a question

if so many are against the use of amenities provided for cyclists why then whinge when a car stops in one of them? or complain about choice motor vehicles down have the choice to use cycle routes do they
as for red light jumping (took me a while to figure out rlj) both do it but cars etc tend to do it on 'dark amber' cyclists do it at all points of red.
 
I had one of my absolute fave's today. CAR DRIVER: You do know that blinky lights are illegal for road use dont you?
ME : NO Just NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fark OFF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, and breathe.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
I had one of my absolute fave's today. CAR DRIVER: You do know that blinky lights are illegal for road use dont you?
ME : NO Just NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fark OFF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, and breathe.

They used to be illegal (or rather, it was illegal to only have a flashing light with no solid), so it's not surprising some people think they still are.
 
I had one of my absolute fave's today. CAR DRIVER: You do know that blinky lights are illegal for road use dont you?
ME : NO Just NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fark OFF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, and breathe.

Reply: "The law changed in October 2005, what else aren't you up to date with?" That and/or "Fark off!" :biggrin:
 
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