Richard A Thackeray
Legendary Member
View attachment 528447 I would have this back before the new one.....
And then, this one.....
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View attachment 528447 I would have this back before the new one.....
And then, this one.....
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It’s not a real Defender, there’s no option to be converted for any task and because of that they’ll never ever do a days work, never transport military personnel & kit, never be waiting at the end of an RAF runway with a fire extinguishing conversion, never bring livestock to/from the auction mart, never do an expedition, and never get utilities companies to that rural site,It’s not a ‘real’ Defender - it doesn’t leak cold water into your lap from the roof when you turn the first corner on a rainy day, and you can’t see daylight through the door gaps or dashboard.
I like the new one, although it’s out of my price range. I saw a nice one yesterday in bog standard Land Rover blue with a white roof that set it off nicely.
It’ll never get any conversions done, simply because yes the Real Defender, and it’s predecessors were cheaper, and more importantly modular in construction, so you could strip them of the rear tub, put a hard top on a pick up, replace the chassis, modify it in a million ways, this new thing is a replacement for the 200/300 Tdi and TD5 Discovery, not the DefenderTBF, it could do that stuff (Harry Metcalfe for one has demonstrated so). However, it won't do that stuff, because of the price. Like most SUVs, it'll be bought by idiot townies who think they need a three ton vehicle to feel 'safe', and idiots in more rural areas who think they live in 'the country' because there's a bit of mud and gravel on the road.
Just wait until you see the new Grenadier!It’s not a real Defender, there’s no option to be converted for any task and because of that they’ll never ever do a days work, never transport military personnel & kit, never be waiting at the end of an RAF runway with a fire extinguishing conversion, never bring livestock to/from the auction mart, never do an expedition, and never get utilities companies to that rural site,
it’s not a workhorse, it’s not a Defender, it’s the wrong car, at the wrong time, they’ve got it spectacularly wrong, and gifted everything listed above, and more besides to Toyota, Isuzu and Mitsubishi.
Seen it, the car Land Rover SHOULD have built,Just wait until you see the new Grenadier!
.... I ordered one a few days later, looking forward to getting it, should be fun.
????.... Like most SUVs, it'll be bought by idiot townies who think they need a three ton vehicle to feel 'safe', and idiots in more rural areas who think they live in 'the country' because there's a bit of mud and gravel on the road.
TBF, it could do that stuff (Harry Metcalfe for one has demonstrated so). However, it won't do that stuff, because of the price. Like most SUVs, it'll be bought by idiot townies who think they need a three ton vehicle to feel 'safe', and idiots in more rural areas who think they live in 'the country' because there's a bit of mud and gravel on the road.
I saw a 90 in the flesh for the first time at the end of April, I thought it looked fantastic, so good that I ordered one a few days later, looking forward to getting it, should be fun.