New Helmet needed apparently - are "smart" ones any good

[ebikeerwidnes]

Never had a problem getting white or yellow helmets.

Oh yes - I can do

but just been to Halfords to have a look and most were black or green - dark green- one even matt green

just seems weird to me

and while I am at it

opinions of "indicators" on the back of teh helmet

seems daft to me - they are so close together

but - I dunno - opinions???

 

[Drago]

Indicators are the most pointless bike accessory in christendom.

First, they quickly become a substitute for looking, which on a bicycle is the fast track to a morgue.

And on a lid theyre only any use if the rider is staring dead ahead, which is the last thing a diligent rider should be doing.

 

[Alex321]

Pure speculation, but why did it split?

Because he hit a rock as he fell.

 

[Alex321]

Michael Schumacher proved this beyond doubt.

No he didn't.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Indicators are the most pointless bike accessory in christendom.

First, they quickly become a substitute for looking, which on a bicycle is the fast track to a morgue.

And on a lid theyre only any use if the rider is staring dead ahead, which is the last thing a diligent rider should be doing.

That was my thought

also - if it is flashing on the side of you helmet - but you are looking to one side to problems -
then the flashing will move around and could look like it is on the other side

even indicators on the back are normally so close together that they look pointless
other than indicating that you are likely to do something

might work on an extension out to the sides - but that is also a good way to get it caught on something at the back
and at the front I already have enough carp on my bars!!

 

[Mike_P]

The basic issue with indicators is they have to be far enough apart to be obvious to least intelligent driver of a vehicle behind, which is pretty impossible on a bicycle. If motor bike style handlebar end linducators were fitted to straight bars the bike is unlikely to fit through a lot of barriers meant to preclude motor bikes.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Michael Schumacher proved this beyond doubt.

Not true.

As I have said before:

Thought to be and speculated by many.

No evidence has ever been published to support that nor did the publicly disclosed forensic report summary suggest that.

 

[a.twiddler]

Most road users would recognise something that's supposed to function as an indicator, but shirley, there's no BSI or equivalent standard as far as I know for bicycle indicators so should you be involved in an accident relating to their use, it could get a bit sticky sorting out the legalities. Has anyone got any information on this?

 

[Milzy]

Some club members have £300 helmets. I’ve noticed the same helmets can be half price if in a certain colour way. It’s just a scam.
My Garmin watch & head unit detect crashes so they’ll alert my wife of my demise. I’ve found some cheaper lids to be as light & comfortable as expensive smart helmets. Save your cash for the good stuff.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

might work on an extension out to the sides

 

[Jameshow]

Some club members have £300 helmets. I’ve noticed the same helmets can be half price if in a certain colour way. It’s just a scam.
My Garmin watch & head unit detect crashes so they’ll alert my wife of my demise. I’ve found some cheaper lids to be as light & comfortable as expensive smart helmets. Save your cash for the good stuff.

Dies it also record her with a gallon of oil or carton of tacks?;🤣🤣🤣

 

[scotsbikester]

Most road users would recognise something that's supposed to function as an indicator, but shirley, there's no BSI or equivalent standard as far as I know for bicycle indicators so should you be involved in an accident relating to their use, it could get a bit sticky sorting out the legalities. Has anyone got any information on this?

Personally, I doubt that (the emboldened section) is true. "Indicators" on helmets are very very rare. I think they would just serve to confuse, until or unless the driver was close enough to realise what they were. There might well be the danger of the effect where people are drawn towards something. There's a name for it but I forget what it is. If nothing else they sound like a distraction.

Personally, as somebody whose bike is completely compliant (I think), I get frustrated/annoyed at the extremely wide variance in bicycle lighting. Standards, that are actually enforced, would be a good thing. In the mean time we have people cycling around with all manner of lighting arrangements intended, at least in the riders' minds, to make them safer. In my city I've witnessed two variations of the same idiocy. Somebody with red lights on both the front and back of the bike, and somebody else with flashing white lights on both front and back.

PS, it would probably be the RVLR that would apply to the "indicators on a helmet" thing. Perhaps with a reference to a BS. As we all know the police are very keen on checking that cyclists' lights display a BS kite mark. I bought an STZVO front light, as that apparently suffices for UK legislation. And more importantly has an upper cut-off, so I don't dazzle other road users. The RVLR are here, if you want to try to work out whether indicators on a helmet would be compliant - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/contents. Have fun with that.

 

[Drago]

Some club members have £300 helmets. I’ve noticed the same helmets can be half price if in a certain colour way. It’s just a scam.
My Garmin watch & head unit detect crashes so they’ll alert my wife of my demise. I’ve found some cheaper lids to be as light & comfortable as expensive smart helmets. Save your cash for the good stuff.

I've a funny shaped head - I've been likened to Kryten - and a helmet could cost £10k and will be of no use if it doesn't fit me well. Im quite,lucky in that relatively inexpensive Uvex lids are best suited to my cranial topography.

 

[classic33]

Personally, I doubt that (the emboldened section) is true. "Indicators" on helmets are very very rare. I think they would just serve to confuse, until or unless the driver was close enough to realise what they were. There might well be the danger of the effect where people are drawn towards something. There's a name for it but I forget what it is. If nothing else they sound like a distraction.

Personally, as somebody whose bike is completely compliant (I think), I get frustrated/annoyed at the extremely wide variance in bicycle lighting. Standards, that are actually enforced, would be a good thing. In the mean time we have people cycling around with all manner of lighting arrangements intended, at least in the riders' minds, to make them safer. In my city I've witnessed two variations of the same idiocy. Somebody with red lights on both the front and back of the bike, and somebody else with flashing white lights on both front and back.

PS, it would probably be the RVLR that would apply to the "indicators on a helmet" thing. Perhaps with a reference to a BS. As we all know the police are very keen on checking that cyclists' lights display a BS kite mark. I bought an STZVO front light, as that apparently suffices for UK legislation. And more importantly has an upper cut-off, so I don't dazzle other road users. The RVLR are here, if you want to try to work out whether indicators on a helmet would be compliant - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/contents. Have fun with that.

Lights attached to the rider are outside of the RVLR. I'm against the fitting of lights to a helmet simply because the head will turn during normal riding, which can give a misleading "image" to other road users.
Petzl head lights suffer the same way.

 

[Drago]

Aside for the danger to the cranium, head mounted lights have another problem.

The human brain as evolved to have a good separation between object, light source, and eye. The sun is way up in the the sky, not hovering over ones head. Head torches are OK for close work, a night time roadside repair, finding ones house key in the dark, etc, but quite poor as a device to see by on the move - the brain just isn't used to interpreting the signals and can take too long to react in a fast moving environment.