New Helmet needed apparently - are "smart" ones any good

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Mike_P

Legendary Member
Location
Harrogate
White blends into the background a bit. If you want something for night, get some 3M diamond grade reflective tape, red applied to rear of helmet, white to front. White or amber reflective on sides.

Still falls foul of the regulations once the head is turned.
 
OP
OP
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Location
Widnes
I have red tape on the back mudguard and red/white on the frame where appropriate
and some yellow in places as well

As far as the helmet goes I think I will just go for a standard one
and get a small camera that clips to my t-short or something

no lights of the helmet seems to make sense - I have several front and back on the bike already!
 

Mike_P

Legendary Member
Location
Harrogate
What regulation would that be?

Um.. so reflective material is treated differently to lights

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/made

Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors

11.—(1) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing a red light to the front, except–

(b)a side marker lamp or a side retro reflector;

(c)retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;

(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except–

(p)reflected light from amber pedal retro reflectors;

(q)reflected light of any colour from retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Photo Winner
Location
Inside my skull
Um.. so reflective material is treated differently to lights

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/made

Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors

11.—(1) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing a red light to the front, except–

(b)a side marker lamp or a side retro reflector;

(c)retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;

(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except–

(p)reflected light from amber pedal retro reflectors;

(q)reflected light of any colour from retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;

Erm that applies to bike, not what the rider is wearing. The clue is in Road Vehicle, which a helmet is not, it is headwear.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Um.. so reflective material is treated differently to lights

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/made

Colour of light shown by lamps and reflectors

11.—(1) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing a red light to the front, except–

(b)a side marker lamp or a side retro reflector;

(c)retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;

(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except–

(p)reflected light from amber pedal retro reflectors;

(q)reflected light of any colour from retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of–

(i)a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;

Notice what I have bolded?

Attached to the rider is not fitted to the bicycle.
 

scotsbikester

Über Member
Lights attached to the rider are outside of the RVLR. I'm against the fitting of lights to a helmet simply because the head will turn during normal riding, which can give a misleading "image" to other road users.
Petzl head lights suffer the same way.

Yes, I assumed they would be. I was inviting another poster to investigate the RVLR. They are probably (?) illegal, as they will be too high. Not that I can be bothered to try to wade through the RVLR to make sure. As with every other part of the RVLR, as they apply to bicycles, I expect the chances of actually getting prosecuted for having a light on your helmet are somewhere approaching zero.
 

YMFB

Über Member
 
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