Oh dear I have just verbally abused a client but he did deserve it!

[400bhp]

My question is probably a lttle off topic (but hopefully Dave from work was commuting so gives some justification), but why did it matter to you that Dave was in the middle lane of an otherwise empty motorway? Did he obstruct your overtake?

He forced Hip Priest to make a manouvre that was unnecessary.

 

[Hip Priest]

My question is probably a lttle off topic (but hopefully Dave from work was commuting so gives some justification), but why did it matter to you that Dave was in the middle lane of an otherwise empty motorway? Did he obstruct your overtake?

Whilst reluctant to get into a debate about a minor road incident from 2002, I'd say I flashed him because sitting in the middle lane of an empty motorway is inconsiderate and / or ignorant.

And Dave wasn't commuting, he was ferrying his son to the airport.

 

[Arfcollins]

Whilst reluctant to get into a debate about a minor road incident from 2002, I'd say I flashed him because sitting in the middle lane of an empty motorway is inconsiderate and / or ignorant.

And Dave wasn't commuting, he was ferrying his son to the airport.

Fair enough to have that opinion, but what did the flashing achieve? Who was he being inconsiderate to, bearing in mind the motorway was empty? You had a whole outside lane to use so he was hardly in your way.
Sorry if I come over as a grumpy old git, but I get a bit angry at the 'lane fascists' on motorways who think it is a useful excercise to flash those who they think are blocking their important progress, or who cut in quickly and dangerously after the overtake to show their displeasure. If I'm doing 70 in lanes 1 or 2 and you want to overtake at an illegal speed you should do it safely and considerately. Anything else is just a punishment pass that you no doubt have suffered when cycling.
Rant over.

 

[snorri]

but I get a bit angry at the 'lane fascists' on motorways who think it is a useful excercise to flash those who they think are blocking their important progress,

I discovered many years ago whilst dosing in the middle lane of an empty motorway that the police do this flashing thing too, so annoying.

 

[400bhp]

Fair enough to have that opinion, but what did the flashing achieve? Who was he being inconsiderate to, bearing in mind the motorway was empty? You had a whole outside lane to use so he was hardly in your way.
Sorry if I come over as a grumpy old git, but I get a bit angry at the 'lane fascists' on motorways who think it is a useful excercise to flash those who they think are blocking their important progress, or who cut in quickly and dangerously after the overtake to show their displeasure. If I'm doing 70 in lanes 1 or 2 and you want to overtake at an illegal speed you should do it safely and considerately. Anything else is just a punishment pass that you no doubt have suffered when cycling.
Rant over.

Well it wasn't was it.

You come across as bloody minded.

 

[Arfcollins]

Well it wasn't was it.

You come across as bloody minded.

I wasn't saying that your's was a punishment pass, so excuse me if that was how it reads. If bloody minded is being prepared to say why I'm unhappy with someone's use of the road then it's a fair cop. I don't flash to let somone else know that I'm unhappy. That achieves nothing. A bit like blowing your Airzound after the event.

 

[Norm]

Well it wasn't was it.

You come across as bloody minded.

Don't forget selfish.

 

[Hip Priest]

A lot straw of man arguments in that post Mr Collins. I wasn't speeding, as I've said, and I didn't pass him dangerously. The punishment pass analogy is therefore invalid. All I did was flash my lights once prior to passing, in order to express disdain at his lane discipline. Not the most edifying thing I've done, and probably unnecessary, but hey, we've all moved on.

 

[tongskie01]

I wasn't speeding. And I've explained why I flashed him.

sorry but you were in the middle lane too. what were you doing in there?

 

[Hip Priest]

sorry but you were in the middle lane too. what were you doing in there?

I was there briefly en route from the inside lane to the outside lane. It's illegal to undertake and my car doesn't jump.

 

[WJHall]

Strange to say, passing on the left on motorways does now appear to be permitted, without the qualification of "slow moving" that applies on ordinary roads, although two cars at 0400 probably does not meet the "congested conditions" qualification.

Suggest not telling anyone or motorway lane discipline will collapse completely.

From the Highway Code:

268

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

 

[Arfcollins]

A lot straw of man arguments in that post Mr Collins. I wasn't speeding, as I've said, and I didn't pass him dangerously. The punishment pass analogy is therefore invalid. All I did was flash my lights once prior to passing, in order to express disdain at his lane discipline. Not the most edifying thing I've done, and probably unnecessary, but hey, we've all moved on.

You maybe need to read my last post again, as I'd said I wasn't suggesting yours was a punishment pass.
My argument is that those sort of passes (and flashing) do happen on motorways, they are illegal and potentially dangerous and they are really no different from the dangerous passes and abuse we cyclists suffer.

 

[Norm]

You maybe need to read my last post again, as I'd said I wasn't suggesting yours was a punishment pass.
My argument is that those sort of passes (and flashing) do happen on motorways, they are illegal and potentially dangerous and they are really no different from the dangerous passes and abuse we cyclists suffer.

Although they are quite easy to avoid by not being a selfish hog who doesn't understand basic rules in the highway code.

So, not really like the stuff that a cyclist faces at all, then.

 

[Hip Priest]

You maybe need to read my last post again, as I'd said I wasn't suggesting yours was a punishment pass.
My argument is that those sort of passes (and flashing) do happen on motorways, they are illegal and potentially dangerous and they are really no different from the dangerous passes and abuse we cyclists suffer.

Yes, illegal and potentially dangerous passes are wrong whatever the vehicle. But I'm guilty of neither, as you appear to accept, so I'm unsure why you're bringing it up.

I just wanted to respond to the OP with my own tale of an incident that was close-to-home.

Now, unless you wish to furnish me with tales of trivial incidents from your early 20s that I can analyze to the nth degree, I suggest we put a lid on it.

 

[Arfcollins]

Although they are quite easy to avoid by not being a selfish hog who doesn't understand basic rules in the highway code.

So, not really like the stuff that a cyclist faces at all, then.

So are we forgetting that Hip Priest flashed that 'selfish hog' who was in the middle lane of an empty motorway? It sounds to me like you're more interested in the rules than the circumstances.