Oh dear lord....

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ShipHill

Senior Member
Location
Worcestershire
Nothing to do with cycles but interesting nonetheless

Many years ago, according to a guy I chatted to in a pub once (so it's true :crazy: ) a West Mercia foot cop stopped some guy on a motorcycle (for reasons I can't recall), went over the bike with a fine toothcomb and eventually pulled on the clutch lever then said...

"Your back brake doesn't work."

Causing the guy to explain that it's a clutch lever which resulted in the cop having to call up HQ to verify the story.

Wouldn't surprise me and even if this story isn't true, it's funny.
 
My late brother found mobility an issue as his renal failure progressed.

We bought him an electric bike, and he chose a Sakura:

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He was forever being pulled over for riding his "moped" without a helmet!
 

rams1de

Active Member
Wonder what a magistrate would make of someone without pedal reflectors but wearing reflective slap wraps on their ankles?

The regulations are very specific, reflectors must be fitted to the leading edge and trailing edge of each pedal.

I can't see them being able to do anything more than consider other reflectors in mitigation when handing out the penalty, perhaps lower fine if there is scope.
 
The regulations are very specific, reflectors must be fitted to the leading edge and trailing edge of each pedal.

I can't see them being able to do anything more than consider other reflectors in mitigation when handing out the penalty, perhaps lower fine if there is scope.

Which on a recumbent are where the feet go!
 

Kies

Guest
2723571 said:
Quite right. The real concern is the potential for a weaselly insurance companies lawyer arguing damages down.

Yes possibly. I would argue lights,even when off are better at reflection than pedals with my size 11's on them.
 

Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
Is it an offence not to stop if asked to by a PCSO? If it isn't - keep pedalling!
 

Frood42

I know where my towel is
Is it an offence not to stop if asked to by a PCSO? If it isn't - keep pedalling!

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117572/pcso-powers.pdf



Power to control traffic for purposes other than escorting a load of exceptional dimensions:
Powers to direct traffic (for purposes other than escorting loads of exceptional dimensions) based on the powers constables have under sections 35 and 37 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. It also gives PCSOs the power to direct traffic for the purposes of conducting a traffic survey. PCSOs designated under this paragraph must also be designated with powers under paragraph 3A of Schedule 4 to the Police Reform Act.

Paragraph 11B of Schedule 4 to the Police Reform Act 2002 (inserted by paragraph 10 of Schedule 8 to the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005).

Power to carry out road checks:
Power to carry out a road check which has been authorised by a superintendent (or a police officer of higher rank) and power to stop vehicles for the purposes of carrying out a road check

Paragraph 13 of Schedule 4 to the Police Reform Act 2002

Power to stop cycles:
Powers of a constable in uniform to stop a cycle under section 163(2) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 when a PCSO has reason to believe that a person has committed the offence of riding on a footpath.

Paragraph 11A of Schedule 4 to the Police Reform Act 2002 (inserted by section 89(3) of the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003)
 

Frood42

I know where my towel is
Is it an offence not to stop if asked to by a PCSO? If it isn't - keep pedalling!

http://www.met.police.uk/pcso/pcso_powers.htm
The majority of the capital’s 4500 PCSOs have over 30 powers to call upon whilst on patrol. These include:
  • Power to direct traffic and pedestrians
  • Power to confiscate alcohol
  • Power to confiscate tobacco from persons under 16
  • Power to enter premises to save life and prevent damage to property
  • Power to remove abandoned vehicles
  • Power to issue fixed penalty notices (for example, cycling on the pavement, dog fouling, littering, graffiti etc.)
  • Power to demand a name and address of a person acting in an anti-social manner
  • Power to seize vehicles used to cause alarm
  • Power to search property in matters relating to terrorism (with a constable)
  • Power to search property in matters relating to terrorism (with a constable)
  • Power to seize drugs
Traffic PCSOs have extended powers to help keep London’s traffic moving.

PCSOs only have powers when they are in uniform

PCSOs must carry a ‘designation card’ that describes their powers

PCSOs do not have a power of arrest but they can require a suspect to remain with then until a police officers arrives.
The 'power to remain' can be exercised only in limited circumstances
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
The Regulations
However I can't get my head around how any of the clipless road pedal stystems currently available can comply if four amber BS approved reflectors are required. The law should be ammended to deal with the reality of modern cycling.
 
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