Our grand daughter had her drink spiked.

[Pale Rider]

It's happening a lot. My granddaughter had her drink spiked a couple of weeks ago in Aber. Her friends found her slumped on the floor near the toilets. Her handbag, keys and debit card was missing. They took her home and called her parents. She only had 4 drinks and 2 of them she gave to her friends. It's a frightening situation that seems to be getting worse.

I'd love to get my hands on whoever did it.

I'd also love for you to get your hands on whoever did it.

As with all offending, there's only two things which will deter it - fear of detection and fear of punishment.

The difficulties of investigating this type of crime means there's very little fear of either.

 

[Drago]

My understanding is that depending on how quickly someone us tested has a huge effect on detection because things like Rohypnol don’t stay in the system for more than a few hours.

It's some years ago so memory is hazy, but I recall you had a good opportunity up to 12 hours, limited opportunity up to 24, forget it after that. Most were scraped out the gutter and taken to hossy by Ambo, so would have given their samples within a few hours.

 

[Dave7]

The symptoms you describe were pretty much as my victims told me.

But not one had anything in their bloodstream othher than alcohol, and usualy very high concentrations at that, so it is not possible to go by ones own impressions when determining the truth of the situation.

Granddaughter and friend were on their 1st drink. Both exactly the same symptoms very quickly.
I understand teenagers and drink as I seem to recall being one many years ago.
In this case I tend to believe them.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Do they have any idea what was in the drink??

It is all rather worrying to say the least

 

[presta]

She collapsed unconscious, and someone's calling a friend 20 miles away instead of an ambulance?

 

[Drago]

On my donor caRd it says:

"In the event of my sudden death please call.."

And I scrawled...

"AN AMBULANCE, QUICK!"

 

[si_c]

She collapsed unconscious, and someone's calling a friend 20 miles away instead of an ambulance?

Her friend who'd also been drugged made the call. It's easy to armchair quarterback when you're clear of mind.

 

[Drago]

To be fair, it was their first bevvy and they were both quickly affected then likely is there was something amiss.

 

[Dave7]

Do they have any idea what was in the drink??

It is all rather worrying to say the least

Her mum has been trying to get her to at least phone the police but to no avail.

 

[Dave7]

She collapsed unconscious, and someone's calling a friend 20 miles away instead of an ambulance?

They are teenagers and not thinking straight.
I believe the manageress accused them of being drunk and told them to leave.

 

[mudsticks]

Her mum has been trying to get her to at least phone the police but to no avail.

News flash .

Some women don't 100% trust the police..

No one can work out why..

 

[mudsticks]

Just to be clear @Dave7
I would still advise anyone in this situation to call 999, maybe ask for an ambulance primarily, as who knows what the drug or its effects are ??

Am really sorry that yr GD had to go through this .

Hope it won't stop her going out and having fun, she should be able to do that at any age

The whiff of 'disbelief' 'she's making it up' 'probs just p*ssed' coming from some quarters, on here, is depressing , but not wholly surprising

The "not going to be believed" scenario , is just one of several reasons that women, particularly young women, don't feel that the police are their best source of support.


Other reasons are also available.

Society as a whole needs to tackle this, it's not just for law enforcement.

Although they could do a lot better.
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Probs could be better funded too

But oh no that's politics innit

 

[Pale Rider]

Her mum has been trying to get her to at least phone the police but to no avail.

Could be because she knows the job wouldn't stand up to scrutiny, which could also explain why an ambulance wasn't called.

Alternatively, in her young life she may have acquired a deep and justified mistrust of the police.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

On the other hand - the evidence available to us (which is just this thread) indicates no fault with the victims at all
possibly a confused woman calling a friend rather than an ambulance while just having been drugged

and maybe some experience of women being blamed for everything that happens to them whether or not they were in any way at fault - maybe not directly but indirectly by implications, nods and winks - and all that

and if they see this thread they will have some more experience of it

 

[Pale Rider]

On the other hand - the evidence available to us (which is just this thread) indicates no fault with the victims at all
possibly a confused woman calling a friend rather than an ambulance while just having been drugged

and maybe some experience of women being blamed for everything that happens to them whether or not they were in any way at fault - maybe not directly but indirectly by implications, nods and winks - and all that

and if they see this thread they will have some more experience of it

I was more thinking of the scrapes I got into as a child and my ham-fisted attempts to wriggle out of them.

Dave reckons they are telling the truth, so all should be well.

Hopefully they will be persuaded to put any trust in the police issues they have to the test.