Petition for law change - Ebike Assist Limit

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youngoldbloke

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Sorry but it was yourself who was using it as a comparison as though they have it so we should, I see no reason why the speed needs to be increased, they are an aid to the rider, once you go above 15mph they then become a method of motorised transport (see @Smudge above). Oh just in case you want to use the anti-ebkie retort, I already own one, or at least my better half does.
Aren't they 'a method of motorised transport' anyway, below 15.5 mph? It is a completely arbitrary figure.
 

glasgowcyclist

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why does 15.6mph seem adequate??


It's for the petitioner to show why it's *not* adequate and argue the case with supporting evidence, not for me to show the opposite.

Having said that, if I ever get back to commuting by bicycle I would happily consider an e-bike in its current specification. 15.6mph is well above my 12mph average speed so it would be a welcome boost to my travel time, especially homeward as that's all uphill and typically into a headwind.

The good news is that new guidance has been issued allowing employers to give access to e-bikes via Cycle2Work schemes above the usual £1000 cap (see https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...hout-1000-limit-launched-uk-government-426596) and, if you're lucky enough to live in Scotland, you can get an interest-free loan of up to £6000. (see https://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/scotland/grants-loans/ebike-loan)
 

Pat "5mph"

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I don't want to share cycle cycle tracks with powered machines capable of 20 mph!
Neither do I.
Bad enough the non assisted bikes that go at 20mph on segregated cycle facilities!
why does 15.6mph seem adequate??
I agree with @glasgowcyclist.
Increasing the speed limit of Ebikes is not safe for users of segregated/shared cycle facilities.
Unless the users of faster Ebikes stick to the roads.
Of course, as there could be no enforcement of a law that makes them use the roads, they will mostly be on the paths.
 
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jowwy

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It's for the petitioner to show why it's *not* adequate and argue the case with supporting evidence, not for me to show the opposite.

Having said that, if I ever get back to commuting by bicycle I would happily consider an e-bike in its current specification. 15.6mph is well above my 12mph average speed so it would be a welcome boost to my travel time, especially homeward as that's all uphill and typically into a headwind.

The good news is that new guidance has been issued allowing employers to give access to e-bikes via Cycle2Work schemes above the usual £1000 cap (see https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...hout-1000-limit-launched-uk-government-426596) and, if you're lucky enough to live in Scotland, you can get an interest-free loan of up to £6000. (see https://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/scotland/grants-loans/ebike-loan)
im not the petitioner.....so im asking you, why you think 15.6mph s adequate???
 
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jowwy

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Neither do I.
Bad enough the non assisted bikes that go at 20mph on segregated cycle facilities!

I agree with @glasgowcyclist.
Increasing the speed limit of Ebikes is not safe for users of segregated/shared cycle facilities.
Unless the users of faster Ebikes stick to the roads.
Of course, as there could be no enforcement of a law that makes them use the roads, they will mostly be on the paths.
but its ok for non-assisted bikes to ride over 15.6mph on shared use paths.......and why does it make it less safe, just because its an ebike??

are you saying a mountain/road bike travelling at 20mph is more safe than an ebike travelling at 20mph?? and if so why is that so??
 
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jowwy

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No, but you're the one who wants folks on here to sign the thing.
im not wanting anyone to do anything.....i just posted a link to a petition with no other comments attached

i neither said please sign or dont sign......its upto others whether they support or do not
 
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jowwy

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No, it's not OK, but there's no petition about it for me to sign.
It's not safe because faster makes it harder to stop in time to avoid the hazards of a shared path.
but its ok for normal bikes to ride at those speeds unrestricted??
 

youngoldbloke

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It's for the petitioner to show why it's *not* adequate and argue the case with supporting evidence, not for me to show the opposite.

Having said that, if I ever get back to commuting by bicycle I would happily consider an e-bike in its current specification. 15.6mph is well above my 12mph average speed so it would be a welcome boost to my travel time, especially homeward as that's all uphill and typically into a headwind.

The good news is that new guidance has been issued allowing employers to give access to e-bikes via Cycle2Work schemes above the usual £1000 cap (see https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...hout-1000-limit-launched-uk-government-426596) and, if you're lucky enough to live in Scotland, you can get an interest-free loan of up to £6000. (see https://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/scotland/grants-loans/ebike-loan)

15.6 mph is well above my average speed on a club ride too. Even on an ebike.
 
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jowwy

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Why increase the number of inconsiderate riders in such places? And on heavier bikes, too - heavier = more damage in a collision.
and so do heavier riders...so your argument is mute in this case
 
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