After everything else that’s happened with it so far I wouldn’t be at all surprised
This is the crux of the question. Why do you want the thing? If it's about having "the best", and there is nothing wrong with that, and you believe that the Pinarello is "the best" then nothing else will do. That's the value of a brand. If I'm driving a Ferrari I don't care if some Japanese turbomobile may be faster, it's not important. I'm the one in a Ferrari. If it's about performance, and you reckon that the Lapierre performs the same, or possibly even better with nicer wheels or tyres, then that might swing it for you. We all know the limiting factor is the engine, and Julien Alaphilippe will be faster on my £800, 15 year old Decathlon bike than I would be on his. I'm not even convinced that I'd be quicker on his bike than mine. But if I had the bike of my dreams, and every time I saw it I went "wow" and wanted to ride it, then that's worth your £x thousand. If every minute on it is a joy because you are on "the best", then that makes it worthwhile.
If you buy the Dogma, in a couple of years you’re just as likely to think you’ve wasted too much money on the more expensive option when the Lapierre would have done just as well. It’s how us humans work.
Might as well not get either bike then and get something for £1k instead. Or why stop there...
Coz it's.... cooooool.
Sure. That's the point. Everybody has their own sweet spot. I'm building a bike that to me is as cool as a Dogma. It cost £35, 10 years ago, and I'm spending more than that getting it powdercoated so I can turn it into the Speed Lobster "Ca coûte ce que ça coûte". It's a limited edition model, it's going to be as cool as a penguin's backside.
As soon as I take delivery I’ll put up a couple of pics … even though the F12 is an old model now with the recent launch of the ‘F’
Hope you’re still enjoying yours
picked up an F12 frame (2019) in Italy last week, just finished the build tonight and it's FAST......
It’s the big day tomorrow funnily enough … but not until around 19.00hrs and in a town a long way from where I live because the shop owner is racing and I’m meeting him afterwards - not that I care, just pleased to be finally getting it - I’ll post some pics once I’ve fitted the pedals and so on …Pics or it didn't arrive yet
PS here they are breeding
… any pics of your F12 ?
I would think all fully integrated bars are difficult to build, there’s not loads of room inside the bar/stem interface is there - well done with yours ! …. I’m itching to see a pic of your F12 - colours ? , group set ?, brakes ? …. your post raises many more questions than it answersThat's great news and i'm sure that drive will feel much shorter on the way back home
PS if your LBS fella complains about the complexity of building the Talon Ultra bars i can only sympathise with him..... took me 4hrs to get the cables sorted, chuffing nightmare but does look neat.
