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domd1979

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darkstar said:
do you not agree a find would be sufficient, such as a speeding ticket, is that not just as bad as putting feet on a seat???

Railway byelaws cannot be enforced as fixed penalties as far as I know, with the exception of penalty fares and car parking offences.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
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darkstar said:
Ell well seems i will be having to declare this whenever asked for visas etc Defiantly no chance of working with children.

You are getting hysterical.

You'd be surprised what convictions are allowed when working with children.

I know of a de-registered solicitor with double drink driving charges, perverting the course of justice and an 18 month jail sentence under his belt. He's a successful teacher and the convictions have no relevance to his job as a teacher.

I also know (on good authority from an admissions tutor) that the majority of applicants from one geographical area for one particular teaching subject have one or more blemishes on their criminal records. If the crime has no direct bearing on the responsibilities of teaching and the safety of children then there is no barrier to entering the profession.
 

domd1979

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vernon said:
I know of a de-registered solicitor with double drink driving charges, perverting the course of justice and an 18 month jail sentence under his belt. He's a successful teacher and the convictions have no relevance to his job as a teacher.

If he has his licence back, you'd hope he's not allowed anywhere near the school minibus...
 
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darkstar

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domd1979 said:
Railway byelaws cannot be enforced as fixed penalties as far as I know, with the exception of penalty fares and car parking offences.
These rules can be changed surely?
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
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darkstar said:
Thats just like saying speeding tickets are not required, everyone should stick to the speed limit, it's probally not going to happen.
I travel by train very rarely, it was an empty carriage, shoes were not on the actual seat, i was not intimidating anyone, yes i know i should not do it, but surely everyone is allowed to make a mistake, this is the first time i have ever been in trouble with the police, not the sort to cause any trouble.

Are you advocating the ignoring of all first offences or just your own?
 
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darkstar

darkstar

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vernon said:
You are getting hysterical.

You'd be surprised what convictions are allowed when working with children.

I know of a de-registered solicitor with double drink driving charges, perverting the course of justice and an 18 month jail sentence under his belt. He's a successful teacher and the convictions have no relevance to his job as a teacher.

I also know (on good authority from an admissions tutor) that the majority of applicants from one geographical area for one particular teaching subject have one or more blemishes on their criminal records. If the crime has no direct bearing on the responsibilities of teaching and the safety of children then there is no barrier to entering the profession.
Thanks mate it was good to hear that, suppose i may be taking it a bit oo seriously, was just such a shock.
 
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vernon said:
Are you advocating the ignoring of all first offences or just your own?
Well it depends on how serious the 'crime' is, i personally do not believe putting your feet on a seat can be treated in the same way as possessing drugs, theft and speeding, just my opinion i suppose.
 

gavintc

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We are talking about Merseyside, the part of the country that is the 'victim' and seems disinclined to accept responsibility for their actions. So I am not surprised at the defence being presented by our Liverpool members. A person doing wrong is always the innocent victim being bullied by Big Brother.
 

PaulB

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gavintc said:
We are talking about Merseyside, the part of the country that is the 'victim' and seems disinclined to accept responsibility for their actions. So I am not surprised at the defence being presented by our Liverpool members. A person doing wrong is always the innocent victim being bullied by Big Brother.

Green is so not your colour.
 

on the road

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It's not as if there's no signs there telling not to put you feet on the seats. There's signs on all the trains, so you can't have missed them.
 
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darkstar

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Jeez i am not condoning my actions! Do you seriously believe this act deserves the same punishment as drug possession and theft? Please answer truthfully.
 

gavintc

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PaulB said:
Green is so not your colour.

I am just completely bemused by this thread. You do something wrong, you get picked up, you learn by your mistake. Most people would not have put their feet on the seat. What is so difficult about that.

Instead, we have an outpouring of victimisation and the claim that some crimes are greater.
 
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