Private School

[Primal Scream]

I don't really know that I have a definite opinion on it... depends on the case - great if it opens up the catchment of a good school to everyone, but not if it doesn't and the taxpayer is essentially subsidising a private education.

In one case the school has kept the same set of pupils even though they do not all come from the new catchment area.

 

[slowmotion]

And yet I could have afforded, at a push, to send my sons to private school and chose not to. They gained from being at a state school in terms of the understanding of society.

I think we could have too, just about.

We chose great holidays instead....

 

[Primal Scream]

Yeah... whatever.

You clearly have no clue about:

(a) education; and/or
(b) the negative effects of academies and free schools.

A free school has been built in Ilford even though the other schools in the borough were under subscribed in some cases.

 

[araapatlio]

Yeah... whatever.

You clearly have no clue about:

(a) education; and/or
(b) the negative effects of academies and free schools.

a) I'm a former teacher with an MEd and currently home tutoring.
b) Don't believe everything you read, it mostly just partisan and political rhetoric. Academy schooling was one of the best things Labour did, Free schools is the best thing the Coalition are doing. We need radical new thinking in education, you are only going to get that if you liberalise the system. Free schools do this within the state sector.

 

[araapatlio]

A free school has been built in Ilford even though the other schools in the borough were under subscribed in some cases.

There was probably a reason for that.

 

[araapatlio]

In one case the school has kept the same set of pupils even though they do not all come from the new catchment area.

You can't really kick kids out of their school though, as long as the new intake will be from the local area I suppose.

 

[Primal Scream]

There was probably a reason for that.

There was, demographics.

 

[Primal Scream]

You can't really kick kids out of their school though, as long as the new intake will be from the local area I suppose.

It was no longer "their school" though was it. I would accept if they were in the final two years it would be unfair but before that if your not in the new catchment area your out.

After all this government will ship you from London to Stoke because of the benefit cap and to hell with your childrens education but then again they are poor people so they dont count

 

[araapatlio]

So couldn't make it in the classroom then...

Had to give up teaching to take care of someone.

Academy schools are about as good an idea as Foundation Trusts in the NHS. Free schools are the same sh1te in a new wrapper.

What is normally meant by 'liberalising' is actually 'privatising' - at least be honest rather than covering your intent with euphemisms.

Privatising? Free schools are state sector schools, funded by the taxpayer. I mean liberalising. Why do you think top-down government control is better?

 

[araapatlio]

There was, demographics.

I mean why they would someone go to the trouble of setting up a Free school without good cause? There must have been a motivation there, in terms of an educational need not being supplied

 

[araapatlio]

It was no longer "their school" though was it. I would accept if they were in the final two years it would be unfair but before that if your not in the new catchment area your out.

That'd be a decent compromise.

 

[Primal Scream]

Had to give up teaching to take care of someone.




Privatising? Free schools are state sector schools, funded by the taxpayer. I mean liberalising. Why do you think top-down government control is better?

Toby Youngs school twisted the catchment area to avoid a local council estate so that children living further from the school in "good" areas could attend but those living in the nearer council estate could not. The schools excuse was the railway line between the school and the estate was a "natural" barrier even though it was no impediment on estate children reaching the school.

No doubt we will have some fruitcake teaching creationism in a religious based free school sooner or later.

 

[araapatlio]

Toby Youngs school twisted the catchment area to avoid a local council estate so that children living further from the school in "good" areas could attend but those living in the nearer council estate could not. The schools excuse was the railway line between the school and the estate was a "natural" barrier even though it was no impediment on estate children reaching the school.

Toby Young's school has a wide mix of kids, including a relatively high % on free school meals.
http://www.localschoolsnetwork.org....r-getting-a-genuine-social-mix-in-his-school/

 

[Primal Scream]

Toby Young's school has a wide mix of kids, including a relatively high % on free school meals.
http://www.localschoolsnetwork.org....r-getting-a-genuine-social-mix-in-his-school/

Yet if the school had included the local estate in the catchment area their would have been even more on FSM, the deliberate bias made sure this did not happen

 

[Primal Scream]

Anyone wanting a religious free school is already suspect AFAIAC.

The sooner religion and education are separated the better, the indoctrination of young kids is not on.