mr_cellophane
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Lots of overtime, every weekend and making sure rotas were to my advantage. It was only for about 5 years and I knew it would come to an end.
If you made sure rotas were to your advantage, were they to anybody else's disadvantage?Lots of overtime, every weekend and making sure rotas were to my advantage. It was only for about 5 years and I knew it would come to an end.
As an average, the self employed work a third longer and earn a third less than employees.Most small business owners would earn more working for a company or public sector, more should have a go and find out what it is like, bit angry as I just had another small business go bankrupt on me this moring oweing over £1,000.
No. We covered 7 - 7. No one wanted to do early or late by choice, so as I only lived 3 miles away, whenever anyone was off I rostered them for late and me for early, 20 hours at time & half an extra weeks pay.If you made sure rotas were to your advantage, were they to anybody else's disadvantage?
I'm happy with a progressive system. I'd be happier with a system that couldn't be gamed by company directors and people rich enough to afford clever accountants. I'd be even happier if when people did game the system, they just admitted it was for their own gain and didn't try and frame it as getting one over on 'the man' as if they never benefitted from any of the things that our tax money pays for.No. We covered 7 - 7. No one wanted to do early or late by choice, so as I only lived 3 miles away, whenever anyone was off I rostered them for late and me for early, 20 hours at time & half an extra weeks pay.
To those saying playing the system legally to my advantage is immoral. What is a fair tax system ? Any tax system will always be unfair to someone. Fairest system IMO is a very large tax free amount and then one flat rate
As an average, the self employed work a third longer and earn a third less than employees.
I've highlighted the important word. You were in charge of the roster and you chose which shifts to work. So you chose to pay yourself the most.whenever anyone was off I rostered
I'd be happier with a system that couldn't be gamed by company directors and people rich enough to afford clever accountants
Or by not wanting to do the late shift others chose to pay themselves the least.I've highlighted the important word. You were in charge of the roster and you chose which shifts to work. So you chose to pay yourself the most.
So you aren't in England or Wales thenwhere all our children get a free education
So you don't have an ISA? You don't make pension contributions before tax is calculated? Both of these are tax shielding devices designed to benefit the individual.I've highlighted the important word. You were in charge of the roster and you chose which shifts to work. So you chose to pay yourself the most.
I'd be even happier with a system where someone couldn't find a way to bend the rules in the artificial ways that have been described in this thread.
I've probably paid more tax over the years than most of the people in this thread. I've never used an artificial means to reduce it. The tax I pay is the very reasonable price for living in a country with healthcare that's free when you need it, where all our children get a free education and where those members of the community who need a helping hand while they're down can get it when they need it. It's called civilisation.
Education in England is free from age 4/5-18 surely, ie for all children?Or by not wanting to do the late shift others chose to pay themselves the least.
So you aren't in England or Wales then
I have ISAs. Any future pension contributions I make would effectively be taxed at nearly 100%, so I don't make any.So you don't have an ISA? You don't make pension contributions before tax is calculated? Both of these are tax shielding devices designed to benefit the individual.
Or, as likely, didn't want to rock the boat by standing up to the person who chose the rota and snaffled all the best GIFs for himself.Or by not wanting to do the late shift others chose to pay themselves the