Red light jumpers

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by rb58, 6 May 2010.

  1. Mark_Robson

    Mark_Robson Senior Member

    It's been 26 years since I passed my test but if I remember correctly the correct procedure for a motorist is to accelerate when the lights turn to amber and then floor it when they turn to red. You know that you have 30 seconds before the other lights turn green, plenty of time.
    Not following the above procedure during your driving test is an instant failure. :sad:
     
  2. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    Why do you want to piss off motorists?
    It pisses of everybody else, too, and you know this. So you're just being antisocial "because you can".
    I've heard the excuse that it's safer to jump the lights often enough, but I've never seen anyone do it for that reason. It is possible to be safe and legal at the same time if you're a decent enough cyclist.
     
  3. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    Sometimes it makes you hard to see.
    It's illegal to ride without lights after dark.
    Accusations of "Contributory negligence" by motorist who knocks into you.
     
  4. hackbike 666

    hackbike 666 Guest

    Don't bite.FFS.
     
  5. tdr1nka

    tdr1nka Taking the biscuit

    Better make a fresh batch of popcorn! :biggrin:
     
  6. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    I cannot imagine what you mean by that.
     
  7. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    No, but you might like to try justifying behaviour that you know to be antisocial and illegal.

    Your move. (You're nearly on 5000 posts, by the way.)
     
  8. tdr1nka

    tdr1nka Taking the biscuit

    You wouldn't do it in a truck. :tired:

    *Sits back with popcorn*
     
  9. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    Please don't use emotional arguments, try and think up something better.
     
  10. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    Most pedestrians don't like it and complain that cyclists going through red lights endanger pedestrians crossing the road.
    Most drivers don't like it because they don't like cyclists getting in front of them.
    Cyclists who obey the law don't like it because "it gives us all a bad name tarred with the same brush &c."

    Actually you know all this and by now you've probably reached 5000 anyway so let's save it for another occasion.
     
  11. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    How is that an emotional argument?
     
  12. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

    Location:
    Logopolis
    This antisocial business, we don't need silly one liner type things like this, especially for lights.

    Given that you both live in London, I suppose on RLJing through dedicated ped crossings there is a point there on that one, but it doesn't really apply outside London where RLJing isn't very common and where ped footfalls across superbusy dedicated crossings are a bit on the smaller side.
     
  13. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    Motons believe that they only have to obey some of the laws, some of the time, and even when this is not actually endangering anyone and when they are getting away with it their behaviour makes sharing the road a cheerless and irritating experience.
     
  14. dondare

    dondare Über Member

    Location:
    London
    I said antisocial and illegal.

    But antisocial is bad anyway, and should be condemned.
     
  15. tdr1nka

    tdr1nka Taking the biscuit

    The problem is more when the afore mentioned motorists then attach that annoyance/attitude to all cyclists, whether they jump lights or not.

    It is endemic in South London, I get cyclists trying to push past me on the inside :angry: to RLJ when I'm quietly sitting in the ASL waiting for the lights to change. :blush:
     
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