RLJ London

[dondare]

No wonder you're no longer a copper!

He's the sort that gives all cycling coppers a bad name.

 

[hackbike 6]

He's the sort that gives all cycling coppers a bad name.

I don't think all cycling copper have a bad name.I have a lot of respect for coppers as sometimes I have to work with them in my job.

 

[Riding in Circles]

I don't think all cycling copper have a bad name.I have a lot of respect for coppers as sometimes I have to work with them in my job.

As a cat burglar. :?:

 

[hackbike 6]

I wanted to delete that post as i missed the point but ;-)

 

[zaid]

I'm still relatively new to cycling so don't know much about anything (as Sam Cooke once said). I follow the road rules like most people whether in my car or on the bike, I definately don't understand why anyone would jump a red light under any circumstances other than trivial self centered reason's. If anyone can honestly explain how "self preservation" etc comes into it, please explain cos as a fellow cyclist if I don't understand, how on earth will the remaining 95% of road users and predestrians ever understand why cyclists jump red lights. They are (and will continue to) draw their own conclusions.

 

[BentMikey]

That's exactly right - it's not about safety, but about own selfishness at the cost of other people's safety.

 

[mr_cellophane]

I have noticed a number of cyclists who stop past the stop line and then realise that there are no traffic lights on the far side of the junction. They are then stuck in the position of having to RLJ, which I don't think they intended, or only knowing it is safe to cross when the cars behind them start to move.

 

[Notsoblue]

This thread is getting quite boring now

 

[hackbike 6]

So is RLJing.

 

[stoatsngroats]

So many points of view...thre'll NEVER be agreement on RLj'ing.....

Just to add my ha'penny....I was stopped at a ped crossing RL, and watched as 3 kids, and an adult crossed in front of me. The facing traffic to me was led by a white van, and as the group of peds got halfway, a cyclist, jumped the light from the nearside of the van....no attempt to stop, and no concern that 2 seconds later, would (MORE THAN LIKELY!!!!) have hit the group.....(some will no doubt say that they RLJ when it's safe!!)

I never had, before this incident RLJ'd, and I never will......

 

[Dayvo]

This thread is getting quite boring now

Don't read it then!

 

[andyfromotley]

oh right so anecdotal evidence proves the case does it? In that case an awful lot of things are dangerous............ermmmm stopping at red lights seems to spring to mind, followed by cycling in general. Crossing the road as a pedestrian is a no no as i saw someone knocked over in 1976.
Sport, energetic sex, flying, eating fish of course...

Now does anyone have any proper evidence that RLJ constitutes a significant risk to either cyclists, pedestrians or motorists. If you could support this in any way other than your opinion that would be cool.

andy

Ps funnily enough in my years as a cop no one that i dealt with victim, witness or offender ever sought my views on RLJ before deciding if i was any good at my job. Still times change i guess... hey ho.

 

[BentMikey]

I have two mates injured by RLJing muppets. No one can stop you from selfish, ignorant and illegal behaviour, but don't try to pass it off as just fine to do.

 

[hackbike 6]

+1.

 

[swee'pea99]

I have two mates injured by RLJing muppets.

Really? I'm sorry to hear that. Also surprised. Tho' it is true that some people RLJ in v stupid situations.

Despite which, speaking as one who has been commuting about 7 miles each way every working day of the year, regardless of wind, rain or snow, for five years, on some of London's busiest roads, where RLJ is absolutely endemic, I have yet to see a single incident, much less accident.

To read some of the contributions here, you'd think there was carnage on the streets. I have to say, as carnage goes, I've encountered worse...