Road ragers should wear helmets

[Deleted member 35268]

Reading, got to love this town. Yes, town - they won't make it a city. Not with idiots like that driving around it.

 

[Lemond]

Not really, It's nice to be courteous and give way to faster traffic when it is safe to do so. It's irritating being stuck behind slow moving tractors that don't move over when safe too.

As a cyclist, if I get to a space that I can pull in to, to let traffic past, before a safe passing point I will do.

Quite right. And it's not like drivers never do the same for cyclists, is it? I get waived through all the time.

 

[Mugshot]

What I am trying to get across, to cyclists and motorists alike, is that if road users had a little more consideration for each other situations like the one being discussed would be avoided, there is no profit to be had in acting out like spoiled children, It achieves nothing. What we are talking about here is lives and safety so is it better to act out our emotions for short term gratification or employ our intelligence to achieve safer more harmonious road conditions. Nob heads will always exist but behaving like nob heads is not the way to reduce nobbish nobbery!

That would be nice, however generally the current expectation (on the road and rather sadly by some here too) is that the consideration for others should only come from one party.

 

[Lemond]

That would be nice, however generally the current expectation (on the road and rather sadly by some here too) is that the consideration for others should only come from one party.

I think you've been listening to the militant wing of Cycle Chat for too long!

 

[Mugshot]

I think you've been listening to the militant wing of Cycle Chat for too long!

Meaning?

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Not really, It's nice to be courteous and give way to faster traffic when it is safe to do so. It's irritating being stuck behind slow moving tractors that don't move over when safe too.

As a cyclist, if I get to a space that I can pull in to, to let traffic past, before a safe passing point I will do.

We're not talking about a country road with a tractor, we're talking about a road in a town with cars parked up on either side. It's nowhere near the same situation.

What I am trying to get across, to cyclists and motorists alike, is that if road users had a little more consideration for each other situations like the one being discussed would be avoided, there is no profit to be had in acting out like spoiled children, It achieves nothing. What we are talking about here is lives and safety so is it better to act out our emotions for short term gratification or employ our intelligence to achieve safer more harmonious road conditions. Nob heads will always exist but behaving like nob heads is not the way to reduce nobbish nobbery!

I'll try to remember that the next time someone in a car squeezes past me at a pinch-point.

 

[Lemond]

Meaning?

That there's far too much "them and us" going on. We all share the road; nobody has more rights than anyone else. But that always seems to be forgotten or ignored. In one 20 mile ride yesterday I saw one cyclist blast through a red light and another fail to give way at a mini roundabout, causing a car to break sharply. I also saw two or three largish groups riding in a very courteous and considerate manner. And I had two cars stop and wave me though on a very narrow single carriageway when they could have easily passed. There are good and bad drivers and good and bad cyclists.

 

[Mugshot]

That there's far too much "them and us" going on. We all share the road; nobody has more rights than anyone else.

So in the context of the video do you believe that the cyclist is creating the them and us or the motorist, do you believe that one of the people involved in that video thinks they have more rights that somebody else and if you do which one do you think it is?

 

[Lemond]

So in the context of the video do you believe that the cyclist is creating the them and us or the motorist, do you believe that one of the people involved in that video thinks they have more rights that somebody else and if you do which one do you think it is?

I think the actions of the driver and the cyclist were wrong. I also think the entire situation could have been avoided had the cyclist simply pulled in and let the driver pass. And that decision would have had nothing to do with who is the more important road user; just one road user showing another road user a little bit of common courtesy.

 

[summerdays]

I think the actions of the driver and the cyclist were wrong. I also think the entire situation could have been avoided had the cyclist simply pulled in and let the driver pass. And that decision would have had nothing to do with who is the more important road user; just one road user showing another road user a little bit of common courtesy.

Wouldn't the reverse be true as well?

 

[Mugshot]

I think the actions of the driver and the cyclist were wrong. I also think the entire situation could have been avoided had the cyclist simply pulled in and let the driver pass. And that decision would have had nothing to do with who is the more important road user; just one road user showing another road user a little bit of common courtesy.

Which doesn't actually answer what I asked, do you think that one of the people involved in that video believes they have a greater right to be on the road then the other, if you do which one is it?

 

[Lemond]

Wouldn't the reverse be true as well?

Absolutely!

 

[Markymark]

Yet to see a car pull over for me when cycling home and in london I'm much faster than the cars.

 

[Lemond]

Which doesn't actually answer what I asked, do you think that one of the people involved in that video believes they have a greater right to be on the road then the other, if you do which one is it?

How can I possibly know that?

 

[Mugshot]

How can I possibly know that?

I'm sorry Lemond, I had made the asumption that you had watched the video and had listened to the exchanges between the cyclist and the motorist.