Shouted at TWICE Damn Pedestrians

[Hip Priest]

that isn't a definition of filtering. politeness makes me from refraining from stating what it is a definition of.

Genuine question: What is the problem with that sort of filtering?

 

[Hip Priest]

Ah, I see. I've only done three clipless rides. It's brilliant out on the open road, but in traffic I go to pieces a bit. I found myself at the head of a queue at a t-junction this morning, struggling to get clipped in and getting the 'rev of rage' from the chap behind.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Genuine question: What is the problem with that sort of filtering?

do you not think being at 90 degrees to the direction of traffic, sandwiched between two vehicles that may move at any moment, and having to make another 90 degree turn to join the traffic flow on the offside of the vehicles you are between, makes you just a tiny bit vulnerable?

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

I'm just popping in to say 'he jesters at the lights' was definitely the highlight of the OP.

Gadzooks! I wish I had been there to see it!

 

[Smurfy]

Genuine question: What is the problem with that sort of filtering?

Nothing at all, as long as you judge each situation individually.

do you not think being at 90 degrees to the direction of traffic, sandwiched between two vehicles that may move at any moment, and having to make another 90 degree turn to join the traffic flow on the offside of the vehicles you are between, makes you just a tiny bit vulnerable?

I've never felt vulnerable, but then I always evaluate the probability of vehicle movement before I start such a manoeuvre. If I've got 10 cars between me and the next set of lights, and the lights are still on red, then I'm through the gap and out the other side in a second or two.

It's all about confidence and ability, if either of those are lacking then there's the possibility of making a spectacle of oneself. If someone is able to trackstand then they probably have the bike handling skills and confidence required to do that kind of filtering manoeuvre.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

[QUOTE 1769261, member: 9609"]do it slowly with good eye contact and any dangers will be minimal.[/quote]
eye contact is not quite up there with jedi mind control so I'll continue to give it a miss and encourage others not to do it.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

It's all about confidence and ability, if either of those are lacking then there's the possibility of making a spectacle of oneself. If someone is able to trackstand then they probably have the bike handling skills and confidence required to do that kind of filtering manoeuvre.

clap trap. complete and utter. almost every word.

 

[Smurfy]

clap trap. complete and utter. almost every word.

Thank you, kind Sir!

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

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Two err is human

I'm not sure about three err

 

[Trevrev]

It's all about confidence and ability, if either of those are lacking then there's the possibility of making a spectacle of oneself. If someone is able to trackstand then they probably have the bike handling skills and confidence required to do that kind of filtering manoeuvre.

Complete bullshit and you know it!

 

[Bman]

clap trap. complete and utter. almost every word.

 

[400bhp]

Err, you've lost me now??

Sorry boss, but I find that term in a post very patronising. It gets on my tits.

 

[400bhp]

Complete bullshit and you know it!

I'm not sure he does. Emperors new clothes and all that.

This debate reminds me a little of similar debates on a car forum I used to frequent, surrounding heel-toe and power sliding rear wheel drive cars, and the ability to do either somehow makes you a more competent driver on the road.

 

[BentMikey]

I don't think Greg has done much riding in London traffic, LOL!

 

[John90]

Although I agree that a large part of track standing is about showing off the skill, what's wrong with that? Everyone likes to show off what they are good at. I do it a lot on my commute and in addition to the show-off value it also gives me something to do at lights, improves my fitness and encourages me to take primary in a safer way than many cyclists.

However, I am rubbish at filtering - terrible at judging gaps - and to some extent track standing is an alternative to filtering rather than a skill that improves my ability to do it.