Shouted at TWICE Damn Pedestrians

[BentMikey]

It might feel like that. But it's actually slower than pushing off from a foot on the ground. The push gives you a lot more forward momentum for the first few strokes. This is another advantage of toeclips, you don't need to faff engaging them until you're up to speed.

Oh, I can't agree with that. It's much faster to have both feet on the pedals and pedal away as I do on the recumbent, or when trackstanding. Admittedly I'm not trackstanding on the recumbent, I'm putting a hand on the ground, but same thing essentially.

To digress slightly, pushing off with one foot is scooting, and it's poor practice and very looked down upon. To my opinion, good cyclists simply pedal away from the power position and engage the other foot smoothly and in one move on pedal/in toe clips/clipping in.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

No trackstands, but are you seriously suggesting that you would not ride from one lane to the other in stationary traffic to filter (which it is, the clue is the name ''filtering'')

Nope. Please read what I actually wrote rather than altering it to suit your pov.

I've done my fair share of filtering. Filtering, imo, isn't weaving in and out between cars using trackstands and 90 degree turns.

I take the easy way out, I just read the road ahead and, mostly, thus avoid getting caught in the wrong place at the wrong time such that I'd need to resort to such anti-cyclecraft and inelegant methods of riding to escape.

 

[Crackedheadset]

Nope. Please read what I actually wrote rather than altering it to suit your pov.



I take the easy way out, I just read the road ahead and, mostly, thus avoid getting caught in the wrong place at the wrong time such that I'd need to resort to such anti-cyclecraft and inelegant methods of riding to escape.

lol, a person with moobs talikng about inelegance.

 

[martint235]

lol, a person with moobs talikng about inelegance.

Just out of interest and apropos of nothing, how many CCers do you have left to insult?

 

[Crackedheadset]

Just out of interest and apropos of nothing, how many CCers do you have left to insult?

None, and seeing as I've only insulted 2 out of 19233 members which if you work it out is 0.000103988% then I'm doing ok.

I recall the two members who I did 'insult' were themselves hardly whiter then white. Being called a looney and having enstrined filtering techiniques labelled as utter tosh is not something to turn away from.

Or would you rather people make reasoned comments and then when they are insulted they don't do anything?

 

[smutchin]

I recall the two members who I did 'insult' were themselves hardly whiter then white.

Racist.

d.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

lol, a person with moobs talikng about inelegance.

Trolls will not be fed.

 

[martint235]

Trolls will not be fed.

Ah Greg, can't I have one as a pet?

 

[400bhp]

Like you need OTHER reasons?

No, really. I do it because when in a trackstand:

A. Since I am standing, I have a higher perspective.
B. The chain is tensioned ready for the light to go green and there's none of that awkward wobbling as I get up to speed.
C. As the stance in a trackstand is quite agressive, once the light goes green, I can hammer it across as soon as the lights change.

A. Why do you need that at the front of a queue of traffic?
B. There can be no arkward wobbling whilst stationary with a foot down.
C. Why do you need to be agressive? Why do you need to hammer it across?

 

[Ferdie]

I find that sticking to the law and your responsibilities as a cyclist is all that you can do as you can't second guess a ped's perception of you as you come to a crossing. There's a crossing on my commute where people have a habit of not crossing at the designated place but prefer to cross a few yards down so they can get to the Tescos entrance quicker- ifyou don;t slow down for them there they do get offended (however they don't expect the same treatment from cars, just cyclists).

Also in central London I've noticed that peds use the ASL box as an extended crossing area and don't like cyclists moving into it. One woman in Covent Garden screamed "STOOOOOP.LOOK RED LIGHT!!" in very slow English so that I could understand. I was about to roll to a stop into the ASL that she prevented me from entering.

You can't avoid situations like this if your intention is simply to stick to the rules, as drivers and peds often make up their own for you to adhere to.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Ah Greg, can't I have one as a pet?

A changeling is much easier to house train and its parents would be so proud.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I find that sticking to the law and your responsibilities as a cyclist is all that you can do as you can't second guess a ped's perception of you as you come to a crossing. There's a crossing on my commute where people have a habit of not crossing at the designated place but prefer to cross a few yards down so they can get to the Tescos entrance quicker- ifyou don;t slow down for them there they do get offended (however they don't expect the same treatment from cars, just cyclists).

Also in central London I've noticed that peds use the ASL box as an extended crossing area and don't like cyclists moving into it. One woman in Covent Garden screamed "STOOOOOP.LOOK RED LIGHT!!" in very slow English so that I could understand. I was about to roll to a stop into the ASL that she prevented me from entering.

You can't avoid situations like this if your intention is simply to stick to the rules, as drivers and peds often make up their own for you to adhere to.

Really though... ?

I rather thought that one had already been spotted

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There is a risk of pedestrians, especially children, stepping unexpectedly into the road. You should drive with the safety of children in mind at a speed suitable for the conditions.

EDIT: Don't forget, those 'peds' were here before us and a have perfect right in the vast majority of situations to cross the road wherever and whenever the heck they like. The onus is on us to avoid them, not on them to keep out of our way.

 

[Ferdie]

By that I mean the situations where you are being mindful but not willing to stop dead for no apparent reason but someon'e else's convenience.

Being mindful of people jumping out in the road and being able to stop is different from someone stood on a traffic island with no crossing demanding you to stop so that they can cross (when they won't dare ask the same from a driver).

 

[GrumpyGregry]

By that I mean the situations where you are being mindful but not willing to stop dead for no apparent reason but someon'e else's convenience.

Manners, Ferdie, if nothing else, manners. Civilised behaviour. In the city. I presume if a car or van or bus pulls out from a side turning and blocks your lane for no apparent reason than the driver's convenience, a fairly regular occurrence in that landan, you stop rather than collide with the vehicle? Why so? And if so why not for a pedestrian? Or are you a firm believer in some sort of hierarchical 'might is right' on the roads in which you outrank these 'peds' by ownership of a superior technology to them?

Being mindful of people jumping out in the road and being able to stop is different from someone stood on a traffic island with no crossing demanding you to stop so that they can cross (when they won't dare ask the same from a driver).

What does it matter to you what they would or would not ask of another person? Let alone another person using another mode of transport? How is that relevant to your interaction with them? And why the rush and the hurry? What do you lose by letting the pedestrian cross in front of you? Perhaps with a nod or a wink or a cheery grin? And let's be clear; they don't need a crossing, they can cross where they like. They were there first.

 

[BentMikey]

Jaysus Greg, calm down brother.