Smidgaf - video - would you report this

[col]

I'd not report that, GB.

It looks like you both get to the RaB at about the same time. In most similar situations, vehicles coming from the same direction as the bus will give way to you, but certainly not all - particularly if they are moving faster or have been waiting a while.

Someone not prepared to give way:

Same time? ok if thats how you see it

 

[Bicycle]

Then why would you then say it doesn't?

I don't say it doesn't. I can accept that the proof was accepted and at the same time see that as nothing of any wider significance or pith. I do accept that helmet cameras have provided proof. I say I do in more than one post. I also think it isn't a big deal in the wider scheme of things and that ultimately helmet cameras are mildly amusing at best and platforms for shouty mad people at worst. I thought I'd made that point. You disagree.

Mrs Bridges from number 12 has also provided evidence that settled a case. That doesn't make her the next big thing. Nor does it make her a shouty mad person.

You like to get exercised about these things and trawl for evidence. I think that's lovely, but I don't take it the teensiest bit seriously.

I've provided evidence in criminal and traffic cases. I am not the best thing since slivced bread and don't have a YouTube channel.

To me, helmet-camera footage posted online is largely a mild form of harmless entertainment, of which some has some occasional training benefit. I am not the enemy, but I can't get excited about this and that utterly vital bit of proof in this or that case.

You give the impression that perhaps you can. If so, that's a laudable trait I do not share.

 

[Jezston]

I don't say it doesn't. I can accept that the proof was accepted and at the same time see that as nothing of any wider significance or pith. I do accept that helmet cameras have provided proof. I say I do in more than one post. I also think it isn't a big deal in the wider scheme of things and that ultimately helmet cameras are mildly amusing at best and platforms for shouty mad people at worst. I thought I'd made that point. You disagree.

Strongly.

I believe the legal victories cyclists have achieved which they never would have without the cams, and the media attention many have received is instrumental in changing the behaviour some motorists have towards cyclists, along with helping cyclists learn skills to control traffic and make themselves safer. As they become increasingly prominent and prosecutions more frequent, the kind of bully-boy inconsiderate or flat out hostile driver will increasingly think twice before putting a cyclists at risk for their own convenience or ego.

Mrs Bridges from number 12 has also provided evidence that settled a case. That doesn't make her the next big thing. Nor does it make her a shouty mad person ... I am not the best thing since slivced bread and don't have a YouTube channel ...You give the impression that perhaps you can. If so, that's a laudable trait I do not share.

This isn't about individuals, but as a group. Our theoretical Mrs Bridges from number 12 isn't on her own a big deal because of the evidence she gave, but Neighbourhood Watch which she is a member of has reduced burglaries by 15% in her area, despite some of the neigbours calling her a busybody. I'm stretching the analogy thin here, but I hope you get the idea.

In summary, I strongly believe cam usage has, is and will increasingly become a powerful force for improving the lot of the cyclist.

 

[Bicycle]

In summary, I strongly believe cam usage has, is and will increasingly become a powerful force for improving the lot of the cyclist.

I quite understand and as I said in an earlier post, I find your stance on this laudable.

I also disagree with it, but the matter of who agrees with whom on this will not make the roads a safer or more dangerous environment.

 

[Origamist]

Same time? ok if thats how you see it

Not at the "same time" at "about the same time" - you realise there is a difference between the two statements?

 

[col]

Not at the "same time" at "about the same time" - you realise there is a difference between the two statements?

I do, but your statement insinuates not enough difference to say someone was ahead. Which there was.

 

[gaz]

I do, but your statement insinuates not enough difference to say someone was ahead. Which there was.

In your opinion there is.

 

[col]

In your opinion there is.

ok

 

[Origamist]

I do, but your statement insinuates not enough difference to say someone was ahead. Which there was.

I have not implied that there was "not enough difference to say someone was ahead", you have inferred that. That's fine though, Col.

 

[BentMikey]

...and yet the numbers of cammers on the tube are exploding, as are the rate of Roadsafe reports.

 

[col]

I'd not report that, GB.

It looks like you both get to the RaB at about the same time. In most similar situations, vehicles coming from the same direction as the bus will give way to you, but certainly not all - particularly if they are moving faster or have been waiting a while.

Someone not prepared to give way:

Oh ok, maybe your right I miss read your post

 

[BentMikey]

[QUOTE 1684007, member: 45"]Well, in terms of the specialist group who post vids on youtube, but I wouldnt even call that exploding.

This is in danger of becoming the kind of fanatical up-talking common on other road-related websites.[/quote]

Well, you're certainly correct that road safety isn't a particularly large part of my life, as I imagine for most people on here. I guess you're also right about the fanatical talking up of the ineffectiveness of cameras and campaigning.

 

[Origamist]

[QUOTE 1684249, member: 45"]Does anyone know how much roadsafe reporting has increased by, how many of these reports are camera clips? How does the percentage of roadsafe reports which are clips compare with, say, 12 and 24 months ago?[/quote]

You'd need to send them an FOI request for that info. Might be worth a shot?

Here's a link to some RoasSafe reporting stats, but not really what you are looking for:

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/reporting-mobile-use-while-driving.50122/post-983655

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

Yes, you must submit all videos to this forum`s approval action committee before taking any further action.

heh!

 

[Cheradenine]

If cyclists go to head cams and cherry pick bad road use by drivers it's just going to lead to tit for tat from drivers with dash cams.

Drivers are shockingly bad but then again so are about 50% of the cyclists I have seen out there.