So all those rumours about Robert Millar were true then...

[GrumpyGregry]

Gary Imlach confirmed it on today's TdF highlights show.

He did. And avoided tying himself in knots.

Can we refer to her achievements as a cyclist as I think Gary did if they were achieved when she was a he? Or should we not simply accept Robert Millar sometime KoM exists as a coherent idea alongside but separately to Philippa York expert pundit and commentator? The only person I know well who has reassigned her gender does not like his past (sporting) achievements to be presented as her own, as it were.

*dons flameproof suit*

 

[jefmcg]

Can we refer to her achievements as a cyclist as I think Gary did if they were achieved when she was a he?

That's an interesting question, because women aren't allowed to enter le tour.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

*dons flameproof suit*

No need I hope. You ask a very valid question.

 

[jefmcg]

No need I hope. You ask a very valid question.

Agreed. Flame proof suits are for people who think they have the right to get snippy because someone doesn't pose for a photo for them.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

if I'm honest this question hadn't even crossed my mind, but the then and now in many ways are irrelevant, the person that is now Philippa York rode the TDF and was a world class cyclist and so I have no issue if Philippa York claims she has rode the TDF, in my book Philippa York has rode the TDF......if i can be honest again, I don't really care either way as long as her punditry is insightful, knowledgeable and interesting then I'm ok with whatever.

The record books show no one of that name, nor that gender, ever having competed in the TdeF.

EDIT: Why no other female pundits I wonder?

 

[rich p]

I wonder if Philippa is more friendly than Robert was. This was me asking for a photo at a 1991 stage start -
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Contrast the response from Phil Anderson -
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FFS, maybe you should get an expert to look at those chips on your shoulder.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

FFS, maybe you should get an expert to look at those chips on your shoulder.

Would you care to expand on that ?

 

[jefmcg]

The record books show no one of that name, nor that gender, ever having competed in the TdeF.

On that basis, Laura Kenny doesn't have any olympic medals.

 

[jefmcg]

FFS, maybe you should get an expert to look at those chips on your shoulder.

can I get a TMN, please?

 

[rich p]

can I get a TMN, please?

I dunno, depends if it's important to you.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

I dunno, depends if it's important to you.

Well your point - whatever it is - seems to be important to you. But on second thoughts, do I really care what you think ? Nope.

 

[jefmcg]

I dunno, depends if it's important to you.

Of course it isn't. TMN is meant to be silly.

I assume @Flick of the Elbow has me on ignore, because I know he's a thin skinned reactionary.

 

[jefmcg]

Well your point - whatever it is - seems to be important to you. But on second thoughts, do I really care what you think ? Nope.

Yup, he has me on ignore @rich p , so he thought you were talking to him

Tick "thin skinned"

 

[rich p]

Yup, he has me on ignore @rich p , so he thought you were talking to him
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Tick "thin skinned"

That's even funnier!!!!
My apols!

 

[Smokin Joe]

That's an interesting question, because women aren't allowed to enter le tour.

I don't know if that is actually true or not, but it would make an interesting court case if one of the teams selected a female rider and she was refused by the organisers.