Soaps.

[gavroche]

As I was watching BBC 1 advertising Eastenders tonight, I suddenly realized that all soaps seem to be based on violence and deceipt nowadays. Is that a reflection of the society we live in? I certainly hope not.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

You don't say:
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/good-grief-whats-happened-to-coronation-street.232546/

 

[dantheman]

It's the best thing for (I was going to put women here, but only half wanting the sexist backlash decided to put it in brackets) people to gossip about.
What I take from them is the smaller the place is that the soap is set in, the more outrageous things happen and more often.. Hollyoaks just makes me want to stay away from any village - cause if that's what they're like then there's a high likelihood that just while cycling through I'll probably have to be lucky to avoid an explosion, fire in the pub, murder and abduction that happen in those few minutes....

 

[vickster]

@dantheman Who are the backlashing sextet?

 

[dantheman]

Haha, caught. But I had already corrected the auto spell mistake..

 

[Slick]

 

[Crackle]

Imperial Leather, pure luxury.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Imperial Leather, pure luxury.

Pfft, Wright's coal tar, or a decent carbolic.

 

[srw]

As I was watching BBC 1 advertising Eastenders tonight, I suddenly realized that all soaps seem to be based on violence and deceipt nowadays. Is that a reflection of the society we live in? I certainly hope not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p048p085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Archer

Schlock storylines were already a staple of the soaps in 1955.

 

[srw]

As I was watching BBC 1 advertising Eastenders tonight, I suddenly realized that all soaps seem to be based on violence and deceipt nowadays. Is that a reflection of the society we live in? I certainly hope not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_Watts

Schlock storylines involving violence and deceit were also a staple of the soaps in the late 1980s.

 

[srw]

As I was watching BBC 1 advertising Eastenders tonight, I suddenly realized that all soaps seem to be based on violence and deceipt nowadays. Is that a reflection of the society we live in? I certainly hope not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Musketeers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo

Schlock storylines involving violence and deceit were also a staple of the serials of 1840s France - the forerunners of the soaps.

(And for national fairness - also of the serials of 19th century England - vide Dickens or Collins or Conan Doyle).

 

[srw]

As I was watching BBC 1 advertising Eastenders tonight, I suddenly realized that all soaps seem to be based on violence and deceipt nowadays. Is that a reflection of the society we live in? I certainly hope not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey

And storylines based on violence and deceipt have been a staple of fiction ever since there has been fiction - the Iliad (2700 years ago) is brutally violent by today's standards while the Odyssey is all about a man several of whose epithets directly relate to his capacity for deceit.

 

[Drago]

Eastenders is poop. Corrie is the best. There is indeed violence on Corrie, as most recently demonstrated with the Pat Phelan plotline, but at least with Corrie they keep it a bit lighter than it would otherwise be with their gentle comedy moments.

Going back to what Gavroche says, recently much of the UK has been like the wild west recently. Massive rise in knife crime recently, 5 murders in a week in my county, it could be that EastEnders is just reflecting real life...or inspiring real people to be violent.

 

[Crackle]

Pfft, Wright's coal tar, or a decent carbolic.

It must be 40 years since I've said this but.....cars don't have bolics......

 

[marinyork]

A lack of soap watching is causing violent crimes.