Sometimes i hate where i live😕

oldwheels

Veteran
Some years ago an acquaintance of mine was attacked by 3 muggers in Leeds bus station. Well built guy into martial arts. When the police arrived they congratulated him as that was the first time an ambulance had to be called for the attackers. They then charged him with GBH. I think he was found guilty but no penalty imposed.
Where I live I feel perfectly safe walking around after dark. There are alcohol related fights of course at pub closing times but no random attacks I have heard of.
One of my sons worked in Kuwait after the hostilities. He said he felt safer on the streets there after dark than in any UK city. He generally felt safer in any of the Middle East countries, even as the only westerner for hundreds of miles in Iran near the Gulf of Hormuz.
 

BoldonLad

Über Member
Location
South Tyneside
Some years ago an acquaintance of mine was attacked by 3 muggers in Leeds bus station. Well built guy into martial arts. When the police arrived they congratulated him as that was the first time an ambulance had to be called for the attackers. They then charged him with GBH. I think he was found guilty but no penalty imposed.
Where I live I feel perfectly safe walking around after dark. There are alcohol related fights of course at pub closing times but no random attacks I have heard of.
One of my sons worked in Kuwait after the hostilities. He said he felt safer on the streets there after dark than in any UK city. He generally felt safer in any of the Middle East countries, even as the only westerner for hundreds of miles in Iran near the Gulf of Hormuz.
I can echo that.

Worked in Mexico, Spain, Bahrain, Dubai, Malta, Gibraltar, Ukraine, USA.

Never felt unsafe in any of these places, but, I didn't feel safe working in Salford.
 

All uphill

Well-Known Member
Glad you are OK Johnnyb47.

Its a bit shocking sometimes.

I would love to see big investment in education, family support and policing to make a gradual change towards the kind of society I lived in for years in Northern Europe.

But its not going to happen. 😕
 
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johnnyb47

johnnyb47

Veteran
Location
Wales
Just got back from a brilliant ride out. Freezing cold but wall to wall sunshine. 45 miles of stunning countryside with a short stop at a pub for coffee and cake.
Its amazing what a change of scenery does. A nice chat with some cyclists along the way and making a big fuss of the Patterdale terrier at the stop of the friendly pub. Mind is now reset again and all is well with the world once more 👍😊
Ps sorry for all the negativity before.
Sometimes i just have to get things off my chest, and talking to the cat somehow doesn't cut it lol😊
 
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nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Just to provide some balance here. I live in an old mill town. Been out to the pubs there lots of time. I have never seen any violence and I have never felt threatened and never felt unsafe

I also go out in Manchester now and then. Same again. Never seen any violence, never felt threatened, never felt unsafe

There are some shonky flat roof pubs in the area that I probably wouldn't visit (mainly because they're rubbish).But there are loads that are absolutely fine
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Just to provide some balance here. I live in an old mill town. Been out to the pubs there lots of time. I have never seen any violence and I have never felt threatened and never felt unsafe

I also go out in Manchester now and then. Same again. Never seen any violence, never felt threatened, never felt unsafe

There are some shonky flat roof pubs in the area that I probably wouldn't visit (mainly because they're rubbish).But there are loads that are absolutely fine
This in spades ! Not far from Nickyboy, and there are a couple of pubs well known for idiots, so you avoid, and the other pubs are lovely places. Regularly out in Manchester, although usually on the way home before 11pm.

Prestatyn is a nice part of N. Wales - @nickyboy was keen to go to Rhyl on the Saturday night of the MTB weekend, :whistle:
 

Drago

Flouncing Nobber
Location
The Oval Office
Some years ago an acquaintance of mine was attacked by 3 muggers in Leeds bus station. Well built guy into martial arts. When the police arrived they congratulated him as that was the first time an ambulance had to be called for the attackers. They then charged him with GBH. I think he was found guilty but no penalty imposed.
Where I live I feel perfectly safe walking around after dark. There are alcohol related fights of course at pub closing times but no random attacks I have heard of.
One of my sons worked in Kuwait after the hostilities. He said he felt safer on the streets there after dark than in any UK city. He generally felt safer in any of the Middle East countries, even as the only westerner for hundreds of miles in Iran near the Gulf of Hormuz.
A mate of mine from the Paras was on leave visiting a lady in Paris when 5 lads tried to rob him on the Metro. He slapped them all quite seriously.

The French police gave him a medal and paid for his stay in France. Our police would have been compelled to send him to the beak.
 
Location
London
I have no idea what you mean by the highlighted sentence.
Not out to have repeated pops dayvo, but it sounded a bit like an alarmist picture of britain.

Edit as just seen a comment about football upthread dayvo. Not disputing your anectode at all but do you know about italian ultras? And italy's propensity for casual racism. For a collision between the two, you might care to google news cagliari calcio.
 
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Location
London
I think it has increased in the UK, and those of us like myself and @Dayvo who live elsewhere notice it more when we visit.

I've noticed a massive increase in fear and (fear of) violence in the UK every time I visited. Mind you, poverty has increased noticeably at the same time.
Yes an increase in poverty and going to get worse i fear. That's often what folk are picking up on. I get around london a lot, don't entirely like what has happened to it, but it still feels safe and generally amiable to me.
 
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London
The increase in poverty is a result of long term trends in britain, economic and political. And long term global trends.
Folk do have a tendency to associate poverty with violence and to be let's say wary when straying into areas that are noticeably poorer than ones they have become accustomed to.
Re my post upthread, i know some italians who associate black people with violence.
 
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keithmac

Veteran
A shame about the shopkeeper. That's never a good way to go.

Saturday nights in town centres are getting much wilder these days, anything can cause it all to kick off. I got my jaw broken once for trying to be helpful to someone outside a casino. :surrender:
One of our customers (big lad, ex rugby player) had the same.

He was in a Subway sandwich shop of all places on a Saturday nigh. Young lad ran in sh1tting himself with a group of 5 travellers behind him (typical hose race meeting nigh).

Anyway he stood up for the lad and they all left, went outside for a cigarette and one of the group hit him in the back of the head with a bottle.

Fell to the floor and shattered his jaw on the kerbside.

He was in a right state with operations etc, all for doing the "right thing".
 
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