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Spitting

Discussion in 'Commuting and Utility Cycling' started by aembleton, 20 Dec 2016.

  1. nickyboy

    nickyboy Norven Mankey

    It's a function of how hard you're cycling and is thus why you see others who are exercising hard (like footballers, rugby players, tennis players, runners) spitting and snot rocketing.

    Hard exercise results in much increased air intake to the lungs. As a result of this, the body produces more mucus in an attempt to humidify and warm the air (hence why it's more of an issue on a cold day).

    So if you're cycling gently it isn't a problem. But the harder you cycle the more of a problem it becomes. My cycling involves a lot of hard climbing so I'm breathing at something like 6 or 7 times my normal rate. So I produce a lot of mucus. I'm not going to stop half way up a hill to get a hankie out and blow my nose
     
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  2. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    And another one coming out with this myth of stopping and unbuckling your purse to flourish a dainty hankie and dab one's nose! How shoot is your bike handling that you can't grab a tissue out of a back or side pocket, use it and return it? Maybe it would be better to improve that before more work on climbing? :tongue:
     
  3. mythste

    mythste Über Member

    Location:
    Manchester
    If you're enjoying pushing yourself and you're hanging out your hoop, staying in control of the bike and being aware of other road users is probably the limit of most peoples abilities.

    I'm not saying you *have* to push yourself hard. But that's how some people choose to ride. And an unfortunate by product is mucus - and when it completely blocks your ability to take in air through your nose you have to clear it, immediately.
     
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  4. mythste

    mythste Über Member

    Location:
    Manchester
    I want to also add, that the situations in which I choose to snot rocket are typically isolated to being half way up snake pass when the temperature drops below 5 degrees and there's no one else about (I'd like to say because I've dropped the pack, but unfortunately they normally drop me...)

    Doing it when there's even a remote chance of it getting on/near/in(?) someone else is, as has been pointed out, pretty grim. certainly not a behavior for the commute through city centres.
     
  5. nickyboy

    nickyboy Norven Mankey

    The issue is one of excess mucus. I've got two ways of removing it. Method one is to snot rocket it. Takes about a second. Don't have to change anything about the way I'm cycling other than move my head to one side a bit. I'm out in the countryside on roads covered in sheep and cow shoot so I don't think a bit of mucus will be much of an addition to the health hazard. Method two is to get a tissue out of my back pocket, blow my nose and put it back in the pocket. Up a decent hill here this would need to be done half a dozen times at least; they can take up to half an hour to climb. On a decent ride I would be blowing my nose on my tissue maybe 20 or 30 times

    So forgive me but I'll keep doing it
     
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  6. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    It's not a behaviour for any time another person is nearby. I don't see why villagers deserve to get covered in snot.

    The sheep and cow shoot isn't airborne. Hopefully.

    So? Hardly difficult or a hardship.
     
  7. briantrumpet

    briantrumpet Veteran

    Location:
    Devon & Romeyer
    Blimey, four pages of snot and mucus.
     
  8. Has anyone suggested spitting around villagers? I have the impression that posters here have specifically said they wouldn't spit or snot in inhabited areas.
    Snot-rockets and spitting are quite common in groups of fast cyclists, and it doesn't generally cause any controversy. I appreciate that people on here are stating their own personal views on the matter but I think practice suggests that there are a great many cyclists out there who are not bothered by it.

    As for the health argument, can anyone point to any statistics on the incidence of transmission of pathogens by spitting, especially by cyclists when outside urban areas? I will yield to evidence otherwise, but I rather expect that attested cases of this will be rather low.

    It's an unnecessary burden if you don't think any of the arguments made for doing it are very strong.
     
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  9. slowmotion

    slowmotion Quite dreadful

    Location:
    lost somewhere
    Suck it up and swallow it if you can't be arsed to get out a handkerchief. What's the problem? Is it too disgusting to swallow but nice enough to spray over the roads and your fellow men?
     
  10. Broadside

    Broadside Über Member

    Location:
    Fleet, Hants
    I think there might be a difference here between those who get an occasional need to blow and those that suffer from exercise induced rhinitis. With the latter the need to clear the nose is very frequent with high exertion and it may be difficult to understand if you have not experienced it.

    My nose runs pretty hard on most rides and I have tried the hankie thing but it gets sodden quickly, I suppose I could take a number of hankies with me but the logistics of keeping one jersey pocket for clean and another for 'used' hankies gets difficult when I have also got food in there.
     
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  11. slowmotion

    slowmotion Quite dreadful

    Location:
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    My nose runs pretty constantly when on the bike. I don't leave a trail like a slug. The handkerchiefs get sodden. It isn't a big deal.
     
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  12. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    “[Tennent] asked a colleague to break wind directly onto two Petri dishes from a distance of 5 centimetres, first fully clothed, then with his trousers down. Then he observed what happened. Overnight, the second Petri dish sprouted visible lumps of two types of bacteria that are usually found only in the gut and on the skin. But the flatus [gas] which had passed through clothing caused no bacteria to sprout, which suggests that clothing acts as a filter.”

    http://www.sciencealert.com/do-farts-carry-germs-depends
     
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  13. It's a question of mutual consideration and tolerance, and I stress mutual.
    I fully get that you personally find it it disgusting and will endeavour to avoid spitting in your sight, but I ask you to have the same respect for my comfort. Yes I do find it unpleasant to swallow it, especially when the alternative is so quick, easy and as I see it harmless. So if you do perchance glimpse me spitting in the distance, please remember that it's not done to offend you or anyone. Live and let live.
     
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  14. Broadside

    Broadside Über Member

    Location:
    Fleet, Hants
    On long rides there comes a point where you can't carry enough hankies, that for me is the big deal.
     
  15. slowmotion

    slowmotion Quite dreadful

    Location:
    lost somewhere
    Yebbut....I don't want to live with your gob, either physically or visually. Do you piss in shop doorways late at night because it's "convenient"?
     
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