Surgery you don't consent to

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classic33

Leg End Member
Can they still perform surgery, when you have said you'll not be signing any paperwork to allow them?

Its invasive, non reversible, life changing and even the experts argue over what the exact outcome can be.

I thought those days were long gone. Are they with us still!
 
o a certain extent there will always be some cases where in the patient's "interest" surgery without consent is performed. Most typically when so there is an incidental find during surgery.For instance finding an inflamed appendix during an operation in the abdomen, it will improve the patient's health, and save them from the risks and trauma of a separate operation .


It is a balance of benefit to the patient and being able to justify the additional surgery

NHS Choices gives some information
 

machew

Veteran
If someone is rushed into A&E unconscious and needing an operation it will be a case of cut first ask questions later. There have been a number of occasions were Docs have bee sued by JW for giving them blood transfusions when they were admitted to A&E. The standard letter that a friend of mine used to send out read
"Dear xxxxx

I am glad that you are alive to sue me. Below are the details of my insurance, please direct all communications to them"
 
I've had surgery without my permission after an op left me in so much pain, I was no longer understanding what happening to me 2 days later. I remember some of what happened in pre-op but little of the 2 days. I clearly recall in pre-op being asked my name and realising I couldn't even tell them. I could only understand very basic questions, but had no ability to comminicate at all. They very sensibly acted on my behalf and I am very grateful that they did.
 
It will be easier for a surgeon to follow the letter of the law and not the spirit. Luckily there are some that are prepared to act. In many ways some do it to avoid getting pulled up by their colleagues for not acting in the right spirit.
 

numbnuts

Legendary Member
Slightly OT
I'll be signing one very shortly as well. Back in for an 11am admission!
Best wishes to you.
All the best from me too
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
Waiting now until the end of the month, when I go into hospital for the surgery(I haven't signed a thing and nor will I).

I was told that I have no say in the matter and that it will be done whatever my feelings on the matter.
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
Told by whom and in what circumstances?
Specialist at a routine consultation. Tests were done, specific for the planned surgery, over the last three months of last year.
The same tests can also be classed as routine, for the condition. Its what one person said to another, evidence wise.
 

Chromatic

Legendary Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I do think that we need to place some trust in surgeons and health care staff. I know the idea of consenting can be scary particularly after someone has just gone through a list of possible risks and complications. However, my view is that if I don't trust professionals in this life, I will ultimately be the loser.

Blimey, I'd even trust an architect.



Nurse, the screens!
 
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