Tea? (Part 1)

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HelenD123

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Landslide said:
Who cares about possible trademark infringement??? Are there any left?:biggrin::tongue::tongue:

Only a few:blush:. You'd better take them off my hands as I'm starting to feel rather sick. I just can't resist them:tongue:
 

Arch

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tdr1nka said:
Our protest made it onto the 10 o'clock national news as well!
One more cuppa, then bed.

Yup, I saw that, you were much more clearly visible for longer!:biggrin:

I have a recipe for a giant Jaffa Cake, it starts with a sponge flan base....

Any tea?
 

Arch

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Also, does anyone else deconstruct a jaffa cake as they eat it, (chocolate first, then orangey bit then sponge (or sponge, then orangey bit...)
 

Arch

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And....

I'm asking here so as not to get laughed at. If I have a 7spd block on the Galaxy, of unknown origin, will any 7 spd twist shifter work with it? Also, the same for triple chain rings... Although I find I don't have a triple in the box of bits, only a double. Think maybe the triple went on the hack, as a temporary bodge.
 

Amanda P

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Arch said:
And....

I'm asking here so as not to get laughed at. If I have a 7spd block on the Galaxy, of unknown origin, will any 7 spd twist shifter work with it?

As long as it's not one of the SRAM ones that only works with SRAM derailleurs, yes.

And, by the way, to add to your list of charmed parts, I have a redundant Shimano 7-speed twist shifter if you would like it (my 'bent started off as 7-speed then got upgraded to 8).

Also, the same for triple chain rings... Although I find I don't have a triple in the box of bits, only a double. Think maybe the triple went on the hack, as a temporary bodge.

Yes again, but Shimano twist grips are indexed with exactly three stops. This means that you can't trim them to stop the chain rubbing in extremer gears.

On a seven-speed bike with long chainstays (lake a Galaxy) this might not be a problem. SRAM's twist grips for front derailleurs are more like a ratchety friction shifter, so you can trim them.
 

Arch

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Uncle Phil said:
As long as it's not one of the SRAM ones that only works with SRAM derailleurs, yes.

And, by the way, to add to your list of charmed parts, I have a redundant Shimano 7-speed twist shifter if you would like it (my 'bent started off as 7-speed then got upgraded to 8).

Wow! Really? That would be most excellent. I'm starting to feel a touch guilty about all this though... I'll see if I can divine any more about it (I have the old derailleur, so that will tell me if it's Sram or not, I guess... If it really is spare, I'd be very grateful (and you will go on the long list of good karma recipients).

Yes again, but Shimano twist grips are indexed with exactly three stops. This means that you can't trim them to stop the chain rubbing in extremer gears.

On a seven-speed bike with long chainstays (lake a Galaxy) this might not be a problem. SRAM's twist grips for front derailleurs are more like a ratchety friction shifter, so you can trim them.

Hmm, friction type sounds better, I do like to be able to trim the front mech, and I'm happy with not-indexed, it's more 'organic', and I change the front mech less anyway. Come to think of it, I think the old downtube front shifter was non-indexed. It might come down to what I can hunt down at the Rally - although my meagre budget seems to be stretching somewhat!:biggrin:

And while it's nice to have everything ship shape, odd twist grips would be a suitable homage to Tom (who, if he was still here, would be able to tell me all this stuff off-hand. In fact, he'd have it built up by now, with all sorts of odd combinations that I'd then have a devil of a time explaining to know-it-alls on holiday. "It works, that's all that matters..."


Hmm, feeling a bit sugar low. Think I'll just go and get a hot choc from the machine (much better than machine tea....)
 

TheDoctor

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Bear in mind that if the block wasn't made with indexing in mind (you know, funny ramps and cut-outs all over the place) it won't index terribly well.
If it's an old rear mech (can't spell deraill derealle never mind...) it probably won't be the funny SRAM incompatable-with-anything-else sort.:biggrin:
 

Amanda P

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Nice point, doc.

Is it a screw-on freewheel, or is it in fact a cassette? I think seven-speed screw-on freewheels are rare, if there ever were such things (I've never seen one).

If it's a cassette, it should be OK with indexing. If not... you might want to consider upgrading to a hub with a cassette and indexable gubbins.

And the twist-grip is just languishing in box, tempting me to use it on another bike. As I already own six, it's probably tempting to have it used on someone else's "another" bike.

My dog-walking/mountain bike has odd twist grips, SRAM on the left and Shimano on the right, for the very reasons I've given. It also had Ergon grips sawn off short to fit with them before Pete suggested it in his magazine.
 

Arch

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Uncle Phil said:
Is it a screw-on freewheel, or is it in fact a cassette? I think seven-speed screw-on freewheels are rare, if there ever were such things (I've never seen one).

Ummmm....

I'll have to get back to you on that.

How will I know? (See, I'm such a dunce!:biggrin:)

I'm fairly sure the rear downtube shifter was indexed before. Almost certain.

I was thinking about Ergon grips as well, since I'm going to stay with the flat bars (as opposed to drops). With Bar Ends probably, for comfort. I may even splash out on a couple of pairs of Potts Cable Lubricators. (Which, BTW, I had one of on my hack before Pete had heard of them! That's Tom again...)
 

TheDoctor

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Uncle Phil said:
Nice point, doc.

Is it a screw-on freewheel, or is it in fact a cassette? I think seven-speed screw-on freewheels are rare, if there ever were such things (I've never seen one).

7 speed blocks are still available at my LBS.

An indexed gripshifter will work fine with a double, even using a road front mech (I have one working like this). It relies on the index providing the big ring position, and the adjustment screw on the mech itself doing the inner. No trimming possible, but as Arch isn't one to do the big-big / small-small thing...:biggrin:
 

TheDoctor

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Arch said:
Ummmm....

I'll have to get back to you on that.

How will I know? (See, I'm such a dunce!:biggrin:)

I'm fairly sure the rear downtube shifter was indexed before. Almost certain.

Are all the coggy gubbins on the wheel at the moment? If not - look at the rear hub. If there's splines for the cogs to slide onto, you have a cassette. If there's a screw thread, it's a freewheel block.

If it was indexing before, it will do again, so I wouldn't worry about it. Just throw it all together and tweak anything that doesn't work.:sad:
 
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