ScottTilley
Regular
- Location
- Nottinghamshire
Thanks, nowhere near catching you, not felt that sick after a TT since the 1990's
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Hi @ScottTilley - I just realized you're cycling in the CycleChat UK league.. Your ride has been accepted and don't worry about the weight..
Cheers
Jim
ScottTilley
Regular
- Location
- Nottinghamshire
Brusgaard
Über Guru
- Location
- Skive, Denmark
Sorry, Danish league again. Can't join you Saturday either, as we are off to visit my parents after some indoor footballmatches with my son.
keithaitch
Veteran
- Location
- barcelona
See you in a minute, are we being friendly tonight ... Until the last km obviously
shimceltic
Veteran
Thanks guys! This afternoons chips sausage and gravy was making its way back up near the end!
Friendly until the last km suits me! Even the whole race! Heck, sometimes it's been so friendly that I've sat on AAAC's tail the whole way thinking I'll cruise in behind him, only for him to slam on the anchors at the last second, leaving me to take the win.
keithaitch
Veteran
- Location
- barcelona
AAAC 76C
Large Member
- Location
- LIVING THE DREAM
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
I've just re-watched Rainmaker's video on the KICKR Climb and I wonder if it doesn't provide a simple cheat with Bkool?
He comments that when you override the automatic mode for the KICKR and increase or decrease the gradient setting that the KICKR matches this gradient with appropriate resistance, rather than applying the resistance sent from any simulator. He manually moves it up to +20% and struggles to pedal.
It immediately occurs to me that if you were to manually put the Climb at a lower gradient the resistance would be reduced below where it should be and the wheel speed could be much increased, fooling bkool as it appears to use wheel speed only and assumes the correct resistance has been applied.
Set the climb on 0% (or even -10%) and smash every climb record on bkool?
Anyone with a Climb care to try this out (at the risk of being labelled a "cheat")?
Regards,
Geoff
He comments that when you override the automatic mode for the KICKR and increase or decrease the gradient setting that the KICKR matches this gradient with appropriate resistance, rather than applying the resistance sent from any simulator. He manually moves it up to +20% and struggles to pedal.
It immediately occurs to me that if you were to manually put the Climb at a lower gradient the resistance would be reduced below where it should be and the wheel speed could be much increased, fooling bkool as it appears to use wheel speed only and assumes the correct resistance has been applied.
Set the climb on 0% (or even -10%) and smash every climb record on bkool?
Anyone with a Climb care to try this out (at the risk of being labelled a "cheat")?
Regards,
Geoff
theboxers
TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
- Location
- OTC (on the couch)
15 minute or better Alpe d'Huez rides thenI've just re-watched Rainmaker's video on the KICKR Climb and I wonder if it doesn't provide a simple cheat with Bkool?
He comments that when you override the automatic mode for the KICKR and increase or decrease the gradient setting that the KICKR matches this gradient with appropriate resistance, rather than applying the resistance sent from any simulator. He manually moves it up to +20% and struggles to pedal.
It immediately occurs to me that if you were to manually put the Climb at a lower gradient the resistance would be reduced below where it should be and the wheel speed could be much increased, fooling bkool as it appears to use wheel speed only and assumes the correct resistance has been applied.
Set the climb on 0% (or even -10%) and smash every climb record on bkool?
Anyone with a Climb care to try this out (at the risk of being labelled a "cheat")?
Regards,
Geoff
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
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Not sure Geoff - unlike the Bkool Pro,the Kickr has a built in power Meter so I always assumed it sent it's power reading to the Bkool software to then calculate speed, and this was the reason Kickr users had a disadvantage on Bkool compared to Bkool Pro users? If this is the case, even if you manually increased or decreased the Kickr Climb gradient and this changed the resistance, your power would still determine your speed. This would make it a bit like the "difficulty" setting on Zwift which allows you to reduce the resistance changes, but doesn't affect your online speed, because your speed is based on power and the on-screen gradient - so more of a gearing change than anything else.I've just re-watched Rainmaker's video on the KICKR Climb and I wonder if it doesn't provide a simple cheat with Bkool?
He comments that when you override the automatic mode for the KICKR and increase or decrease the gradient setting that the KICKR matches this gradient with appropriate resistance, rather than applying the resistance sent from any simulator. He manually moves it up to +20% and struggles to pedal.
It immediately occurs to me that if you were to manually put the Climb at a lower gradient the resistance would be reduced below where it should be and the wheel speed could be much increased, fooling bkool as it appears to use wheel speed only and assumes the correct resistance has been applied.
Set the climb on 0% (or even -10%) and smash every climb record on bkool?
Anyone with a Climb care to try this out (at the risk of being labelled a "cheat")?
Regards,
Geoff
