Team BKool CycleChat

[Randyberlin]

Bill,

Again, good luck on the race this weekend!!

 

[Norseman]

Don't forget Monte's 10,000 calories a day rule.

I gained 4 kg on those 14 days so I think it's safe to say I got at least 10,000 calories each day :-)

 

[bobinski]

Heads will roll,

Bill and I are flying over the Spain next week to call an emergency Board meeting with them to warn them not to cross the Cyclechat crew again.

But we know that's not true. Bill will be so spent from his weekend you would have to be carrying him In fact they were probably taking advantage of his absence last night

 

[Cjbon]

Good luck bill enjoy.

 

[bobinski]

Bill,

Again, good luck on the race this weekend!!

Hear, Hear!!
Whenever you feel disheartened or just downright knackered Bill, just think of a big Mac and fries and a warm apple pie. That should do it

May the rough road rise up to meet you Bill.

 

[bobinski]

They really do need to start taking Zwifts approach of taking a Vortex, for example, along side a Bkool trainer and seeing what 'handicap' they need to build in on climbs.

Say for example a bkool user is struggling up a 10% climb and a vortex user of the same weight is sitting alongside feeling like its a 6% climb. Bkool should be reducing the Vortex riders speed to force them to push harder to keep up with the Bkool user. Effectively forcing them to go into a higher gear or cadence in order to keep up. Obviously they should be making the downhills equal as well, which is what they are hinting at with the update.

Absolutely. I don't know how Zwift do it but it does seem to work. That said, there is some groaning by users about advantages certain turbo users have. But any differences, perceived and/or real don't appear to be anywhere near as showstopping as those that exist in bkool.

 

[bobinski]

I'm afraid you were right to be sceptical!

I have just hooked up my KICKR to a Windows PC and updated the bkool simulator. and still managed to pedal slowly down an 11% decline at less than 4mph!

My old Bkool Pro would have accelerated up to about 15 times that speed!

Very disappointed and frustrated...

I guess what they have tinkered with is the initial momentum you can carry into a slope, but that is like fixing the bar tape when the wheels won't go round!

Geoff

Geoff,
this somewhat confusing message today on trainer road forum:


he article Bkool Electronic Trainers has a new comment.

Alex Kizis
Hey Everyone, We got an email from Bkool early this morning that said the latest firmware of theirs hasn't been released just yet, but they're "working to have it ready as soon as possible". :-) We'll let everyone know when they tell us it's out.

 

[Rob_H]

That said, there is some groaning by users about advantages certain turbo users have. But any differences, perceived and/or real don't appear to be anywhere near as showstopping as those that exist in bkool.

Most groaning on Zwift Ive seen is aimed at non smart trainer (zpower) users cruising around at 7 w/kg.

 

[Rob_H]

Geoff,
this somewhat confusing message today on trainer road forum:

Alex Kizis
Hey Everyone, We got an email from Bkool early this morning that said the latest firmware of theirs hasn't been released just yet, but they're "working to have it ready as soon as possible". :-) We'll let everyone know when they tell us it's out.

I think this relates to a firmware update for the trainer, yesterdays update was for the simulator software. So it sounds like BKool trainer users will be getting some more fixes too, but in a firmware update.

 

[bobinski]

Most groaning on Zwift Ive seen is aimed at non smart trainer (zpower) users cruising around at 7 w/kg.

Wow. I honestly have not seen that. I have hit 7/kg for a second or 2

 

[gbrown]

Geoff,
this somewhat confusing message today on trainer road forum:


he article Bkool Electronic Trainers has a new comment.

Alex Kizis
Hey Everyone, We got an email from Bkool early this morning that said the latest firmware of theirs hasn't been released just yet, but they're "working to have it ready as soon as possible". :-) We'll let everyone know when they tell us it's out.

As Rob_H said, the reference is to a firmware update for bkool trainers (which obviously don't apply to non-bkool trainers). For a non-bkool trainer the changes would have to all be in the simulator software, Bkool Indoor, which was updated yesterday.

Others have posted that they have said on facebook that Virtual Speed has been added for non-bkool trainers, but my quick test showed this was not the case with my KICKR.

Geoff

 

[Rob_H]

Wow. I honestly have not seen that. I have hit 7/kg for a second or 2

It's even funnier when at a steady 7 w/kg they can still type to say they are genuine

 

[IrishAl]

Just completed the col de la madeleine in the goats league. Boy that was tough. Maybe i was just in bad form but I felt harder than san Glorio.

@Baldo Mero your ghost fairly spurred me on and there was nothing in it at the end.

I did notice that when the gradient went from say 4% to 13% that the speed dropped off fast to start with until maybe +2mph from real speed and then went blue and stayed blue for like a minute slowly integrating down by around 0.1mph every 5 seconds to get down to my real wheel speed. I know in real life if you hit a 13% climb you'll fall of the bike very fast if you stop pedalling.

 

[Roleur1]

holy cow....2nd go at sitka.....no cigar yet. its official that its deffo death by 1000 cuts & that 53 rings roll better than 50 q rings....fat lady isnt singing yet though..

 

[Randyberlin]

I gained 4 kg on those 14 days so I think it's safe to say I got at least 10,000 calories each day :-)

Evidently not enough because you beat me by a minute.