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Stick your finger in the air, wiggle your arse and hope for the best.
I think a post was written on here once but it didnt work on moose rides on any other that I tried.
Another Bkool quirk.
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I think a post was written on here once but it didnt work on moose rides on any other that I tried.
Another Bkool quirk.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
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- Camden, London
Many thanks, cheers Bert. One persons better than no one! I'll try that next time
That sounds like my best dance moves! How my missus fell for me is still a complete mystery to me... Cheers Paul.
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
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- South Somerset
I put this in the FAQ, worth a try although it doesn't always seem to work...
2) If you open a league to see the list of sessions available. Scroll down the list to the one you want. There are 2 ways to select it.
Copy : Which copies the session to your scheduled events. This is the one you want.
To Favorites : Which copies the session to your favorites list. Do this if you want to ride it outside of the league.
Alternatively, you can find a posted league result you would like to compete with and challenge that result, to get a league session with a ghost of the rider with that result.
Go to your schedule and you should see, in the list, the session you have just chosen, with a cup symbol beside it, with the current days date. On my list it is usually the last one/s with the current date (you also have other league participants scheduled sessions in your list).
3) If you want to add ghosts to your league ride you may be able to do it here (reportedly it doesn't always work).
4) Open bsim and go to the leagues tab and you should find your league session there.
Geoff
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
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- South Somerset
RIGHT!!
I've just gone through the sequence of magic incantations needed to get ghosts on a league session and got it to work, so I'm going to document it here while I remember...
On the Bkool web site, find the league (Share->Leagues->League name) and then click the stage you want to ride (say Chaingang Feb 2016 - Stage 1 - Baldo Blast) to get the list of results to date. Challenge one of those results or click Copy on the stage page..
This adds a session to your scheduled sessions list and switches you to the Sessions->Scheduled page in the web site.
Find the session you just added, it should have the league symbol next to it.
Click on the symbol under the See column for that session and then on the name of the session
This opens the session page, click on SET-UP > in the top right corner and add the ghosts you want
Now before you schedule it click on the Details page
Under details drop down the list for the type of session and choose Session valid for league
Then select the league
Now click schedule in the top right corner...
You should now see a session schedule with the relevant date and the number of ghosts you selected
Got to the Bsim simulator and find the league tab and the session name and confirm the number of opponents
Then either start the session or click details to set-up the session (i.e. disable Actual atmospheric conditions) and/or review the Riders
Obviously, make sure that Ghosts are Allowed (and as normal no Solo mode)!
If you review the riders you should see all the ghosts you chose...
Start the session and chase your ghosts...
Geoff
I've just gone through the sequence of magic incantations needed to get ghosts on a league session and got it to work, so I'm going to document it here while I remember...
On the Bkool web site, find the league (Share->Leagues->League name) and then click the stage you want to ride (say Chaingang Feb 2016 - Stage 1 - Baldo Blast) to get the list of results to date. Challenge one of those results or click Copy on the stage page..
This adds a session to your scheduled sessions list and switches you to the Sessions->Scheduled page in the web site.
Find the session you just added, it should have the league symbol next to it.
Click on the symbol under the See column for that session and then on the name of the session
This opens the session page, click on SET-UP > in the top right corner and add the ghosts you want
Now before you schedule it click on the Details page
Under details drop down the list for the type of session and choose Session valid for league
Then select the league
Now click schedule in the top right corner...
You should now see a session schedule with the relevant date and the number of ghosts you selected
Got to the Bsim simulator and find the league tab and the session name and confirm the number of opponents
Then either start the session or click details to set-up the session (i.e. disable Actual atmospheric conditions) and/or review the Riders
Obviously, make sure that Ghosts are Allowed (and as normal no Solo mode)!
If you review the riders you should see all the ghosts you chose...
Start the session and chase your ghosts...
Geoff
Thanks Geoff. Even by bkool standards this is a hard one for most to figure out.
I think there is still a potential problem with adding ghosts though. It seems that when you add ghosts there is a good chance that the session will start itself before the countdown reaches zero, even when you are pedalling. This has happened to me before when challenging someone's ghost and it has also happened when Rick set up the Saturday rerun with all the Thursday ghosts. No idea why this would happen except perhaps one of the ghosts had set off early in its actual run and triggered the start to happen, but that is just a wild guess.
I think there is still a potential problem with adding ghosts though. It seems that when you add ghosts there is a good chance that the session will start itself before the countdown reaches zero, even when you are pedalling. This has happened to me before when challenging someone's ghost and it has also happened when Rick set up the Saturday rerun with all the Thursday ghosts. No idea why this would happen except perhaps one of the ghosts had set off early in its actual run and triggered the start to happen, but that is just a wild guess.
Breedon
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- Long Eaton, Nottingham
Well finally got off my arse and on the trainer tonight doing quite well considering i did a 6 mile run, this afternoon.
half way through the tyre was getting noisy and the back end didn't feel right looked down and I had a puncture ffs, so wont be able to finish the first stage.
half way through the tyre was getting noisy and the back end didn't feel right looked down and I had a puncture ffs, so wont be able to finish the first stage.
This is definitely not an exact science. This didn't work initially, but after several attempts it suddenly began to work. Also for the UK 100, which I never succeeded in altering before.
Could it have something to do with the scheduled time?
It seems like I can't edit any of the scheduled rides on the first page, but had more luck on the ones at page 2.
Maybe they have to be scheduled a certain amount of time in the future to be editable?
Interesting Lars. I found the difference to be quite pronounced, especially up steep hills. And yes, it worked well even if you waited for the "Do you wish to stop..." window to pop up, although I certainly didn't have to wait for that before the resistance released. The gear you picked to be in when powering up was important, depending on the slope though and practice made the speed more effective and also much less energy sapping than normal riding.
But yes, I'd be interested to retry it on the basis getting a feel for whether the turbo could apply braking at little or no speed as you have done.
AAAC 76C
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And then there's AAAC.
AAAC do you bring an engineer's spirit level along with you to ensure an even speed curve(or should I say line)? That is quite an amazing strategy, in particular as the speed line seems to be drawn at 50 kph
Your 100% right there.
I hadn't really sat down and analysed my own ride and neither did I watch my stats too closely during the ride as this was one of my biggest efforts yet.
I was just a bit suprised/annoyed to get and 87% effort mark from BKoll for the session when it was perhaps my hardest and most constant effort yet.
I did catch a glimpse of the predicted time left a few times before the halfway and I was on schedule to come in just behind Jacob so I was pleasanty suprised with my end result.
I have got BKool giving me some help with my trainer this week regarding FW/SW updates as I am still on 3.02 and I believe I should be on 3.06. I'll ask them to check calibrate it if they can while they are at it as its something they offerred me with a replacement Classic card so I assume it can be done online.
The irony is that I only messed about with it because it wasn't updating anymore and I am almost back where I was other than the following which I have mentioned before.
1. I no longer accelerate to full downhill speed as soon as the road starts going down, rather I now have a gradule increase in speed (reduction in average speed). In fact my warm down ride 'Descendo La Col De Bonnet' has increased by three minutes since I went 'Pro' as I no longer drop like a stone regardless of effort.
2. I no longer get high downhill power figures that I was obviously not putting the effort in for (reduction in average power)
3. I don't get absurd power spikes when the slope changes from down to up however I do now get blue speeds during the transition and a less stepped actual resistance (increase in average speed)
4. My uphill resistance it now limited to around 11% thereafter the slope may as well be constant (increase in average speed but stable average power)
However if my null position is out I could have given myself an overall decrease in actual resistance and therefore an overall increase in speed and therefore power. I had assumed that the null position was purley based on the tab on the magnet carrier breaking the optical sensor gate and the optical sensor positon is relative to the fixing screw for the PCB so it should (assuming good manufacturing tolerance) always be in the same place for every PCB. Perhaps this is not the case and it does need post instalation calibration.
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AAAC 76C
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Not meant as a dig at Basingstoke (I was bought up on a London overspill council estate myself) more that apparently there are more UK millionaires per square mile in Hampshire than anywhere else in the British Isles.
Basingstoke is by all accounts a very 'ordinary' place and is probably not filled to the brim with 'milluonaires' (Rodney).
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
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- Camden, London
I've very limited experience of bkool's software but I get the impression lots of the data it produces needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Even if it's a begrudging one.
I had another stab at the chaingang stage earlier. I lost the first 50 seconds stuck on the start line while pedalling more and more frantically. I've got an Ethernet cable connected direct to the router now so I'm thinking maybe it's the signal between laptop and unit?
Also I still managed to knock a couple of mins off my previous time but 1) it's still showing in the league as one run completed. And 2) on my home page I think it's including my warm up and warm down in the run. Approx 46 mins total. Is this something that happens a lot?
Sorry for the seemingly never ending list of newbie questions... Hopefully someday soon I'll be able to help others with their queries!
AAAC 76C
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Regarding the pedaling frantically. Your were stationary on the start line with no cadence, speed or watts showing and the 'stop pedaling to start session' warning was not showing. Do you have your ANT+ USB dongle on an extension lead and pretty close to the trainer. Is your WIFI router in the same room as your trainer?
Regarding the Home page. The time displayed does include warm up, the ride and cooldown.
Regarding one run completed. You did start the session from the League tab? and if so some rides do get lost in the interweb for a while sometimes. Also try starting up BSim again and see if you get a message similar to 'all pending sessions uploaded'. Also try going to 'settings/about BKool indoor' and see if there are any 'completed sessions remaining to send' showing at the top of the info displayed.
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AAAC 76C
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Geoff
Do you have an electronics background.
If so are you at all interested in photographs of the BKool Classic and Pro PCB's.
It's all electrickery to me at a level I don't understand but there are some marked differences.
I was able to identify a photocell gate (common to both) and the speed pickup that picks up on the passing magnets on the flywheel (common) but other than the obvious power input (common) , socket for the magnet stepper motor (common), USB port on the Classic the rest is Chips and 'stuff'.
Will try this next time I'm on. Hope it works for me as I'm finding it frustrating not being able to add ghosts to a league ride. Bkool are aware there's an issue and are working on it apparently.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
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I was totally stationery with regards no speed, watts etc. The timer started, I seemed frozen. I did consider that it was a problem between trainer and lap top. I'll buy an extension for the ant+ dongle. With regards the wifi, would that matter if I've run a cable direct from the router to the lap top?
Ah cool thanks
I started from the league tab but I'll check the other options tomorrow if it still hasn't popped up.
MMany thanks for all your help!
