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kipster

Guru
Location
Hampshire
Doing the Christmas club runs has allowed me to ease into using the NEO and explore how it works in the bkool world, just in case anyone wants to know. It definitely seems harder to generate power but that observation is complicated by a few strange quirks. On anything between -2 and up to 0% I need to generate power or the unit slows to a standstill, and quite quickly too. Anything between 0% and 2% feels like 3-4% on the bkool pro. If I am not generating 170w+ I slow pretty quickly, especially at the transition point which over the last few days gave me lots of time to watch to watch TT and Brendon and Whorty apparently coast on past^_^ The good thing is that any perceived disadvantage seems to disappear once the incline increases to 3% and above. I know we were not racing, at least not till the end eh Breedon, but I could stay with the others up to 9%. Anything above that was frigging hard .
I think the NEO brings a few advantages, aside from the obvious of being able to stand and grind out on a sharp incline or on a sprint. Speed seems to carry over really nicely from the top of a climb into a drop or even a flat, so long as I keep pedalling though not necessarily applying lots of power. The benefit is disproportionate to the effort being applied. It's almost like an acceleration, albeit short lived unless on a gradient the drop is 4% or more. Also, unlike on my pro I don't need to pedal like crazy on a drop of 5% or more to maintain speed. As long as I turn the pedals the unit accelerates although applying a lot of power brings benefits too. Mind you it comes as quite a shock, when applying power downhill,as the gradient eases, to feel the brake kick in and slow the bike. I will have to learn to anticipate that and gear accordingly. Interestingly, none of these foibles or quirks appear in Zwift.
I know I will be at a disadvantage in the leagues but that may only be temporary. Bkool will have to find a way to even out the differences between turbos in order to attract as many non bkool turbo owners as possible. I am an optimistic guy:wacko:^_^
I expect my snap will be similar. It takes some effort to get large flywheel going, and sprints take a bit to wind it up, but I can get out of the saddle for them now. I did a Zwift ride today and it was harder than the bkool pro, I will try the winter league 3rd stage on it in the next day or so. If im slow on it, I've still got bazzer99's spare classic to put in a better time.
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Glad you're beginning to get your head legs, lungs around the new Neo Bob. I just cant bring myself to let go of the Bkool pro for racing, I'm just not that competitive you know^_^










NOT :laugh:

I am very disappointed in you Andy- I really thought me getting my NEO out for bkool rides might prompt you to man up;) :tongue:
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<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Yep, should be with you tomorrow too ... happy to push as hard as i can to stay with you until halfway, then you rockets can up the pace and i'll roll in

Good stuff!

I don't want to turn it into a race by any means. It's more of a time issue for me.

Did you get the new peddles fitted Whorty?
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Sorry I had to cut and run earlier guys, I'm not entirely sure I have universal support for these early morning adventures. But we'll persevere! :smile:

Glad you joined us Breedon! I'm not sure I picked the right bots for the excersise... one of them stuck to me so tight I thought she was trying to sit on my lap! She was determined to give me a draft the whole way round which probably defeats the object somewhat...

Same again tomorrow guys? I like the idea of sticking together no matter what until around halfway then ramping it up a little after that. I can't do the chaingang tonight so maybe that suits me more than others who'll be sore.

Trying to sit on your lap?!? That may get a few more bkoolers along for the ride tomorrow;)

I,ll be there as long as 8am is ok for you- bit worried these later starts are causing you grief at home!
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
Good stuff!

I don't want to turn it into a race by any means. It's more of a time issue for me.

Did you get the new peddles fitted Whorty?
I did indeed. Not tried them out yet so tomorrow will be their maiden voyage ... just hope they are more successful than the Titanic :tongue: Need to get the bike back on the turbo too, so an 8 o'clock start suits me as I have time to get everything set up :okay:

How long is tomorrow's ride? Anything between 2 and 2.5 hours will be a good workout for me and what I need after the excesses of Christmas :mrpig:
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Trying to sit on your lap?!? That may get a few more bkoolers along for the ride tomorrow;)

I,ll be there as long as 8am is ok for you- bit worried these later starts are causing you grief at home!

Ha!

The 8am start seems to suit best. The vibration rattling through the house isn't going down very well but it's a work in progress and definitely not a deal breaker!

I have toyed with the idea of doing an outside ride but....:cold: maybe next week... I've just treated myself to some new winter bib tights so I'll have to face the frost at some point.

With all you've said about the variation in resistance I'll probably continue to pick courses with under 1000m of climbing. Maybe around the weekend we should try zwift to if everyone's about and up for it?
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
I did indeed. Not tried them out yet so tomorrow will be their maiden voyage ... just hope they are more successful than the Titanic :tongue: Need to get the bike back on the turbo too, so an 8 o'clock start suits me as I have time to get everything set up :okay:

How long is tomorrow's ride? Anything between 2 and 2.5 hours will be a good workout for me and what I need after the excesses of Christmas :mrpig:

I still have to pick one but I'll probably look for another 60k if that suits everyone.
 
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