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[AAAC 76C]

How do you do it @theboxers ??
I have done it 3 times without getting near your time With my 96 kg and huge watt, this should be an easy win for me
My attempts :
346 watt 13:26 min
383 watt 13.18 min
464 watt 13.06 min

He is 125 kg

 

[AAAC 76C]

How do you do it @theboxers ??
I have done it 3 times without getting near your time With my 96 kg and huge watt, this should be an easy win for me
My attempts :
346 watt 13:26 min
383 watt 13.18 min
464 watt 13.06 min

Odd, at 464 watts I would expect you to be at about 12:30

 

[theboxers]

Not really, just joshing.
I was having my eyes tested today so my eyeballs needed to be the right shape.
Ordered my new bins, £450 with a 10% discount.

The last pair of varifocals I bought, last year, were about £250 iirc (local lab that do everything). They suit my work environment perfectly. Can't drive in them though, so I now carry around 2 pairs of glasses work/reading pair and a everything else reactolite pair.

 

[Daddy Pig]

Odd, at 464 watts I would expect you to be at about 12:30

Does this not depend on where the watts are laid down? Extra watts on the downhill probably do very little compared to flat and uphill sections where more time can be made up/lost.

 

[theboxers]

How do you do it @theboxers ??
I have done it 3 times without getting near your time With my 96 kg and huge watt, this should be an easy win for me
My attempts :
346 watt 13:26 min
383 watt 13.18 min
464 watt 13.06 min

You sir are a monster. Where I get hammered on the up I can make gains on the downs as long as it is steeper than -6%. @127kg I generate an awful lot of momentum downhill

 

[AAAC 76C]

Does this not depend on where the watts are laid down? Extra watts on the downhill probably do very little compared to flat and uphill sections where more time can be made up/lost.

I was using Bike Calculator in which you just add all the variables that you know and it gives you the one you don't know.
However I was using 2000 m as the height but I should have used 1000 m as the average and this actually makes a minutes difference.
So Jacobs 464 watts comes out as 13:18 secs with no bike weight or 12:53 with a 9 kg bike which is what BSim used to use.
Jacob actually did 13:06 which is bang in the middle so it all looks about right.
Plug in 126.6 kg, and 149.37 Watts (Boxers) and you get 12.38 and 12:14 without and with the 9 kg bike and he actually did 12:30

 

[AAAC 76C]

You sir are a monster. Where I get hammered on the up I can make gains on the downs as long as it is steeper than -6%. @127kg I generate an awful lot of momentum downhill

We got us a convoy, let crash that gate!

 

[Daddy Pig]

I was using Bike Calculator in which you just add all the variables that you know and it gives you the one you don't know.
However I was using 2000 m as the height but I should have used 1000 m as the average and this actually makes a minutes difference.
So Jacobs 464 watts comes out as 13:18 secs with no bike weight or 12:53 with a 9 kg bike which is what BSim used to use.
Jacob actually did 13:06 which is bang in the middle so it all looks about right.
Plug in 126.6 kg, and 149.37 Watts (Boxers) and you get 12.38 and 12:14 without and with the 9 kg bike and he actually did 12:30

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So what would someone at 104kg do it in at say 330 watts?

 

[AAAC 76C]

The last pair of varifocals I bought, last year, were about £250 iirc (local lab that do everything). They suit my work environment perfectly. Can't drive in them though, so I now carry around 2 pairs of glasses work/reading pair and a everything else reactolite pair.

I've gone for some plastic rims and because of the broken bridge on my snout it's hard to find a fit and the only ones in stock that suited me were about £180.
My reading prescription is +9.5 and my far sight +7.25 so my lenses would be really bulky unless I go for the thinner lenses which are about £350 and with my eye test and Company discount thrown in it all came to more than £450.

I wear my glasses all day and everyday and I wouldn't be without varifocals for driving now that I have used them.
My glasses last me two and a half years on average so that works out at about £3.50 a week to see properly for 16 hours a day which is 3p an hour.
Worth every penny I would say.

 

[AAAC 76C]

So what would someone at 104kg do it in at say 330 watts?

12:50 to 13:16 so judging by the other data above I would say 13:00 ish

So your extra 8 kg may just put you above Jacob.

http://bikecalculator.com/

 

[AAAC 76C]

That's because 14 10 is the date AAAC not the time

@BILL S , were you and @Brusgaard drafting or both just on offing, either way you both did well.

 

[Whorty]

In ERG you don't need to push crazy RPM to hit power as BSim will put on resistance to make you work.
I hit the button once I was up to max chat off of the line at about 680 watts so whatever I did BSim was trying to make me hit 680 watts.
I managed to keep it there for 4 km then had to drop to 480.
I did a couple of wind ups from there to see if I could up my speed which had little impact as I couldn't hold it.
As I tired my cadence was dropping and I was actually changing down to keep my cadence up and even ended up in a 52/32 gear.
I had just past Randy at this point and was holding him off and even creeping up on Soarer but I was struggling with the gear so I needed to reset the ERG setting.
I forgot at this point that you could changed your ERG setting using BSim controls.
As I disengaged ERG my speed plummeted Randy shot by and I had to wind up to 400+ watts then re-engage.
I didn't make any headway on Randy from there on in.

That all said the idea of the experiment was to see if I could hit my sub 13 minute Bike Calculator time but it didn't work so I guess ERG Power does not generate the theoretical speeds going downhill just like is doesn't on the flat and climbs all be it it does add some speed..

Experiment was therefore a minor failure but a really heavy 15 minute workout, especially with no real warm up.

I watched your ride almost entirely - I was amazed at the watts you was putting out and wanted to see how far you could hold it before you cracked! Even with ERG, flippin amazing power I did wonder how @Randyberlin could suddenly get the jump on you and go past ... you answered that one

 

[Whorty]

@BILL S , were you and @Brusgaard drafting or both just on offing, either way you both did well.

@Brusgaard was way back (false start? late start?). But he was chasing through the group picking off racers. He only caught @BILL S with about 700 meters or so to go. Look at Bill's power graph, you can see when Brusgaard reached him as his power goes through the roof! Last 300 meters both of them were flat out.

 

[AAAC 76C]

@Brusgaard was way back (false start? late start?). But he was chasing through the group picking off racers. He only caught @BILL S with about 700 meters or so to go. Look at Bill's power graph, you can see when Brusgaard reached him as his power goes through the roof! Last 300 meters both of them were flat out.

I remember seeing him sat on the line with me now.
Was there one more left behind as well?

 

[AAAC 76C]

I watched your ride almost entirely - I was amazed at the watts you was putting out and wanted to see how far you could hold it before you cracked! Even with ERG, flippin amazing power I did wonder how @Randyberlin could suddenly get the jump on you and go past ... you answered that one

They are BKool watts.
It's possible to hold those sorts on watts in the velodrome as well but not on a normal road course.
I was working hard but no that good.

Seeing as I was pushing about 88 rpm on 52/32 gear towards the end my wheel speed was only 18 kph so the Turbo may have been under-generating resistance as well.

At the same time Jacob was doing about 110 rpm, probably on a 52/11 so his wheel speed would have been about 66 kph so the Turbo would have been far more capable at creating resistance.

My 10% blue number speed is about 16 kph and we know the Pro struggles with resistance at that wheel speed so considering I was in ERG (so sketchy watts anyway) and close to the Pro resistance threshold you could see some bigger inaccuracies.

We should ask Jacob to try it.