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does anyone feel the draft or has it gone like swift where its hard to get back when you loose it
I didn’t ... but there may be another explanation
 

BILL S

Guru
Location
London
I wish I had @BILL S power with 1km to go,nobody can ever stay with you bill. My tactics are clear, I'm not mixing it with the big boys at the end, Thomas de Ghent for me!
Hahha I wish! I overcooked near the start and spent the rest of the ride trying to recover. I had no chance of catching you Keith (as usual), and if @Brusgaard knew how ill I felt he'd probably have mounted an attack and beaten me to the line.
 

theboxers

TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
Hi, I haven't posted anything for ages but I've been catching up on the forum for the last couple of months. I've been riding outside, as some of you may have seen on Strava, trying to stay fit without over exerting myself, and had a decent summer despite the last month or two being mainly rain and wind. Now the sun is getting low in the sky, which makes cycling unpleasant for me, I am wondering whether to come back to bkool training. My main concern is that the competitive element makes it tempting to over exert oneself, and that is a risk I should no longer take. Trundling along at 70-80% effort may not be that interesting, but at least it will maintain some fitness.

I fancied a NEO 2T (or perhaps the 2 as it's discounted) but my local shop stocks and sells Wahoo and I had a play with the KICKR 2018 and Climb yesterday. They say that they sell a lot of them and the problems from last winter are all gone, but I guess if I have issues I can just take it back in! This is much easier than returning to Wiggle, et al. Also it seems the Neo 2T is not without issues?

They've offered me 10% off, so the KICKR 2018 is actually cheaper than the discounted NEO 2 and Wahoo do a bundle that makes the Climb another £150 cheaper if bought in the bundle so I'm very tempted to get both! The climb does seem a bit of a gimic but could make the rides a bit more involving if the gradient changes give some variety. Plus, I like techy gimics!

Would definitely come back to Bkool, as I would start just by riding some of the local routes I uploaded in the past. Then if I think I can keep up with any of you without overdoing it I may sneak in at the back of some of the rides! :shy:

While in the shop, I had a quick whizz around the block on a new Specialised Creo e-road bike. Much nicer than the one I tried a couple of years ago, looks pretty much like a normal road bike, with less of a weight penalty, but still pretty hefty to pick up (about 13-14 kg with pedals, etc.). The electric assist is epic and it would make long climbs a lot less boring, as once gradients approach double figures I am reduced to a heart rate limited crawl. However, once up to 16 mph or so I could feel the assistance quit and it felt a little heavy and hard to go any faster. Since I am usually faster than this on anything less than a medium climb, most of the time I would prefer to be on my normal road bike. The Creo was nice, and it would be fun to have as an option, but at £7,500 (or £11,000 for the S-Works) it's far too expensive for an occasional spin. While I can still just about make it up the 10-15% gradients unassisted I'll stick to my just using my legs.

It is impressive though how fast the technology is improving, and it seems inevitable that one day I will get one, if only to make the longer climbs less boring.

Cheers,

Geoff

P.S. Nice to see that Bkool have finally recognised the need for a more level playing field to attract or retain riders with non-bkool trainers, shame they didn't do this many years ago, before half the people here had defected to the other place! It seems to me that bkool is still the best place for group rides, route variety and riding your own routes. No longer having to accept the huge disadvantages we faced if we moved to a different trainer is a real bonus.
Nice to hear from you Geoff. Good to see you're still active and also looking at options.

Hope you find what you need :okay:
 

shimceltic

Veteran
I think they've just farked it up as usual!
When you have some dialogue can you mention drafting and the draft symbol is invisible against the skyline. Also I can't draft from 10s back which would help
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
@keithaitch have you approved the rides, on tenterhooks to see if I done enough to overtake rod
It sometimes takes a few minutes for me to be able to approve them, but after a Thursday or Saturday session I try to do it as soon as I am able. They then register in the stage and then later in the overall league so I understand the frustration of having to wait, not knowing why the results aren't showing.
Congrats on 5th place, hugely deserved. I really look forward to the tussle you and three or four others are having its what makes this league great, racing hard, with respect, against people we chat with rather than just some random person.
Onward into November which has something for everyone.
 
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