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Brusgaard

Über Guru
Location
Skive, Denmark
Good Q - but both Ant+

Okay, 2 problems. ANT+ has a "sticky" feature, meaning it will hold watts a little longer. Bkool Simulator has a "safety measure" to circumvent smaller ANT+ signal dropouts, i.e. hold watts (more or less) even if no watts are reported from the trainer. Using this with a trainer that you can switch off, allows for some interesting "tactics". Go back like a 1.000 pages or so in this forum and read about some peoples experiments with that. :whistle:
 

shimceltic

Veteran
Looks like we get to ride with Tom
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keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
Okay, 2 problems. ANT+ has a "sticky" feature, meaning it will hold watts a little longer. Bkool Simulator has a "safety measure" to circumvent smaller ANT+ signal dropouts, i.e. hold watts (more or less) even if no watts are reported from the trainer. Using this with a trainer that you can switch off, allows for some interesting "tactics". Go back like a 1.000 pages or so in this forum and read about some peoples experiments with that. :whistle:
Geek answer of the year, but interesting nonetheless. Guess I'm a geek!
 

Mark68

Über Member
Location
Near york uk
@Randyberlin my rides were delayed too, yesterday's have now come through overnight but Friday's is still AWOL in Strava although it is in Bkool.

[warning the next paragraph may induce drowsiness]
Whilst digging around in Bkool I noticed I've been promoted to Active 3 - yay! Apparently my Thursday race caused an FTP calculation of 268 - very flattering (for me anyway) but I think Bkool is generous with the watts, my watch (Garmin Fenix) pairs with my bike and didn't improve on 263 so I'd rather go with that. Being a geek I looked through the data and it seems that if I spin up the crank and generate a lot of power for a short time my watch will correctly drop the power off once I stop pushing, however Bkool seems to wind it back down more gently giving you free watts for a couple of seconds - I doubt this makes much difference on most rides as during a normal race as we're generally pedaling consistently but I expect on descents it can happen between freewheeling, most likely Bkool behaves the same for everyone but anyone else noticed this?

I manually reset my FTP down to 263 and still scraped Active 3 so still yay!
Do you have power meter on your bike or pedals that calculate power.
Just wondering that's all cos I also have a fenix watch. I can recall my watch showing my FTP. I'll have a look on Garmin connect
Just been fiddling and can't seem to edit my weight in the Garmin connect app for weight based FTP. Did it earlier but didn't read it properly because I entered my weight as 68lbs not kgs😂
I now have power to weight ratio of 6.48 which ain right
 
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AndyMacca

Senior Member
Location
UK
Do you have power meter on your bike or pedals that calculate power.
Just wondering that's all cos I also have a fenix watch. I can recall my watch showing my FTP. I'll have a look on Garmin connect
Just been fiddling and can't seem to edit my weight in the Garmin connect app for weight based FTP. Did it earlier but didn't read it properly because I entered my weight as 68lbs not kgs😂
I now have power to weight ratio of 6.48 which ain right
68lbs wow that'll get you up the hills!

Mine's a Fenix 5 (2 models old now) and it pairs with my Wattbike Atom no problem, if your trainer talks Ant+ then add it but if it only talks Bluetooth then I wouldnt do it as I think Bluetooth is a single channel so can only be paired to one device at a time and you'll want to save that for your Bkool device tablet/laptop etc..
If Ant+ then to pair new stuff on the watch hold the menu button then scroll down to settings, Sensors and Activities then 'Add new'. Next time you ride on the start line start an activity as you would an outside ride but choose <Bike Indoor> rather than ride, it'll then go and find your gear. remember to stop it at the end and then it'll start firing stats at you.

To set weight in Garmin Connect (on Android at least) open the menu then scroll down to Settings (Gear Icon) then chose user settings you can fix it in there.
 

shimceltic

Veteran
68lbs wow that'll get you up the hills!

Mine's a Fenix 5 (2 models old now) and it pairs with my Wattbike Atom no problem, if your trainer talks Ant+ then add it but if it only talks Bluetooth then I wouldnt do it as I think Bluetooth is a single channel so can only be paired to one device at a time and you'll want to save that for your Bkool device tablet/laptop etc..
If Ant+ then to pair new stuff on the watch hold the menu button then scroll down to settings, Sensors and Activities then 'Add new'. Next time you ride on the start line start an activity as you would an outside ride but choose <Bike Indoor> rather than ride, it'll then go and find your gear. remember to stop it at the end and then it'll start firing stats at you.

To set weight in Garmin Connect (on Android at least) open the menu then scroll down to Settings (Gear Icon) then chose user settings you can fix it in there.
So I should be able to add my garmin to my smart pro 2 as its also ant+ gonna try tomorrow
 

Mark68

Über Member
Location
Near york uk
68lbs wow that'll get you up the hills!

Mine's a Fenix 5 (2 models old now) and it pairs with my Wattbike Atom no problem, if your trainer talks Ant+ then add it but if it only talks Bluetooth then I wouldnt do it as I think Bluetooth is a single channel so can only be paired to one device at a time and you'll want to save that for your Bkool device tablet/laptop etc..
If Ant+ then to pair new stuff on the watch hold the menu button then scroll down to settings, Sensors and Activities then 'Add new'. Next time you ride on the start line start an activity as you would an outside ride but choose <Bike Indoor> rather than ride, it'll then go and find your gear. remember to stop it at the end and then it'll start firing stats at you.

To set weight in Garmin Connect (on Android at least) open the menu then scroll down to Settings (Gear Icon) then chose user settings you can fix it in there.
Ok great thanks. I'll try that. Mine in a fenix 3.
I use ant + when connected to my tacx neo. Bkool gave me an FTP that I didn't believe so lowered it.
 

AndyMacca

Senior Member
Location
UK
Ok great thanks. I'll try that. Mine in a fenix 3.
I use ant + when connected to my tacx neo. Bkool gave me an FTP that I didn't believe so lowered it.
Great, you can connect your watch and then Garmin Connect will track FTP (possibly less generous than Bkool if it's working like mine). If Garmin Connect is synced with Strava you will start to get two entries in Strava though, I just delete the Garmin one as otherwise it gets added into the total amount of work done and doubles up the 'fitness' score but it does allow you to spot differences in the data if you want to spend more time staring at numbers :smile:. Also Connect can show you things like left-right balance across the pedals if the Neo publishes stuff like that although for me it's just reminding me my right leg is 1-2% lazier than the left.
 

shimceltic

Veteran
I think the 1800 is the group attempt and I'll do that. Top 5 from each session ride a final on Sunday with some ex pros
GRAND FINISH of the Cofidis by Bkool Brand Tour! The five best times of each stage will compete at 18h (CET) with Óscar Pereiro (winner of the Tour de France 2006), Luis Ángel Maté (Cofidis), Samuel Sánchez (2008 Olympic gold), Carlos Barredo (Winner in Lagos in 2010), Antonio Piedra (winner in Lagos in 2012) and Jesús Hernández (former professional cyclist), among others.
 
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