The ..."are there any Aliens"... thread

[classic33]

God almighty help keep me safe from you lot. I am beginning to wish I was an alien, at least that way I could get off this bloody rock with all these nutters.

There's always the border...

 

[palinurus]

What is the point of coming all the way here just to hide.

Maybe they done something real bad.

 

[welsh dragon]

I may live in wales, but that doesn't mean I am welsh.

 

[welsh dragon]

I don't think anything they do could be bad enough to have to come here.

 

[BigonaBianchi]

I don't think anything they do could be bad enough to have to come here.

why?..our planet is beautiful

 

[Cyclopathic]

Look, it is quite simple.

God is a busy chap and a hard worker. He has to be everywhere, all the time and he has to know everything - which means a lot of late nights reading and going online. One planet, one master-species (us), one set of geological sub-strata, one set of oceans, one global weather system.. it's enough for any deity.

OK, he made this place in six days and took a break. But he hasn't had a day off since. The guy seriously cares and he lives for his work. You can't say that of some deities. I think that Buddha fellow is rather too keen on his food these days and Allah (with all due respect to his prophet upon whom be peace and similar) frankly seems to have a slightly short temper, the way God did before he had a kid - but I'm getting off the point.

Also, none of the other gods made the world. It's in a book and is therefore true. Only God (as in God) can make worlds and he has no time to make and maintain another. It would be like expecting RvP to play for Manchester United and Stoke City.

How on Earth (to coin a phrase) would he (God) have the time to cobble together another planet, another range of flora and fauna?

Where would he get the time? The question is absurd.

Aliens? Schmaliens!

Yeah, but there's loads of other gods even just here on earth and there's probably even other gods that we don't know about and they may have made worlds of their own to play with. In fact I'd bet that as far as gods go there are probably way more competent ones than our god. Basic parenting 101 would tell even the slackest mother not to just trust your kids not to eat the deadly fruit just because you say so. And what sort of idiot would leave the dangerous stuff just lying around for them to play with.
He also showed a hugw ammount of immaturity when he decided to wipe us all out in a flood just because we weren't living the life he told us to. Every parent knows you shouldn't live through your kids but let them develop. Our god was obviously very neurotic not to mention violently insane. Take the way he treated Job (pronounced Jobe not job as it was a person not what someone did as was the way back then) He tortured that poor f***er with all sorts of crap and just about got him to kill his own child just to prove what a loyal sap Job was...to of all people the devil. Then he says to Beezelbub that he can have a go at tormenting him if he wants.
So there are probably other gods and they would have to be pretty poor if they were actually worse than our one so they have probably made loads better worlds with really happy and contented people all over it and all living nicely with as much broad band internet and fruit as they want all for free and stuff. If we haven't heard from them it's because they know what a dip stick our god is and what sort of dross he's managed to make.
I reckon.

 

[AnnaNanna]

And some punctuation, no doubt

 

[BigonaBianchi]

The species that gets here first will.be the hungriest in the solar system, top.of their food chain like us,

 

[welsh dragon]

Maybe we are all living in a dream world. Or maybe we are in fact, just existing in a drop of water on an aliens windowsill. If they have one that is.

 

[TheDoctor]

They just don't want to meet us.
We're made out of meat...

 

[BigonaBianchi]

Maybe we are all living in a dream world.

quantum theory (is it?) that get's into this I think?

You know ..where thoughts are everything, the universe ..everything. So things only exist when we think about them, and not when we dont. Something like that.

So yeah...we are all living in a dream/thought world. You only exist because I am thinking about you and your post. ...no wait...I'm thinking about food now....bye

 

[Hitchington]

Anyone who interested in this subject needs to read "The Eerie Silence - Searching for Ourselves in the Universe" by Paul Davies. I can not recommend this excellent book enough.
http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/paul davies/the eerie silence/8014055/

Review here: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/apr/28/eerie-silence-paul-davies-review

 

[stu9000]

I don't know about anyone else but my bullsh!t filter went into overdrive after five minutes of that... did it mention crop circles?

Funny you should mention crop circles. I used to make them after closing time at the pub. Lots of stuff in the paper about energy fields and lay lines. Great fun. And I recently got into a surprisingly heated argument in another forum about the 'validity' of my crop circle vs "real" ones.

An interesting side question to the alien question is whether evolution builds towards intelligent self awareness. The universe may have a fair population of microbial life but could it or has it ever got smart?

But, as has been said, the chances of two species of self aware evolved life being around at the same time close enough to spot each other REALLY is unlikely...

But not impossible. Is space time a bubble? Are there multiple dimensions? Physics gets weird and although I'm a sceptic, I know I don't know it all.

 

[MontyVeda]

shame on you... you and your bunch of drunken buddies have irreversibly ruined it for 'real' crop circles... how would you like it if no-one took you seriously... EVER!

i think the check boxes for what constitutes life are as follows:

does it feed?
can it reproduce?

there might be a 3rd one but it's early and I'm hung-over... size and smartness isn't an issue... it's more about pies and nookie

as for the rest of your questions... I'll answer them in order:

 

[classic33]

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/are-we-really-here.123624/