The rugby

[Pross]

That pass to Pollack was far more forward than the Italian one earlier and gets completely ignored

 

[Dorset Boy]

The Earl held up over the line was obviously going to happen.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Wales have lulled England into a false sense of security.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

That pass to Pollack was far more forward than the Italian one earlier and gets completely ignored

I was going to say the same.
There’s no consistency.

 

[Dorset Boy]

The Earl held up over the line was obviousl

I was going to say the same.
There’s no consistency.

It's all about the hands, not the way the ball travels guys.
No idea on either of the passes which was the hands were facing

 

[Pross]

One thing from the first two weeks is that there are five well matched teams and then there’s Wales.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Scotland so, so much better, thoroughly deserved. England terrible

 

[Pross]

The Earl held up over the line was obviousl


It's all about the hands, not the way the ball travels guys.
No idea on either of the passes which was the hands were facing

Hands going backwards don’t send a ball 5m forward even allowing for momentum. For me both were clear forward passes but one was called as the white line meant it couldn’t be ignored. I’m all for fast play and tries but not having forward passes is pretty fundamental to the sport.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Not sure why Finn wasn't MotM = he wasn't even on their shortlist.

And why the plaudits for Earl? He was decidedly average today. Lile Pillock, he does a lot of the showy stuff but not enough of the graft.
England need changes at 15 and 12, plus bring Lawrence into 13 and put Freeman on the wing.

 

[Pblakeney]

england just haven't looked like scoring a try

England scored two!

 

[geocycle]

Not sure why Finn wasn't MotM = he wasn't even on their shortlist.

And why the plaudits for Earl? He was decidedly average today. Lile Pillock, he does a lot of the showy stuff but not enough of the graft.
England need changes at 15 and 12, plus bring Lawrence into 13 and put Freeman on the wing.

Agree with all of that. Not often that the side that dominated the set piece loses even with 14 men. Disappointed.

 

[Dorset Boy]

England scored two!

You know what I meant, and they'd only scored one when I posted,
They then scored one at the death, but other than the Arundel try they really never looked like scoring because they kept msking terrible decisions, often by Earl and Steward.
They can't afford Freeman learning to be a 13 in internationals either.
Dingwall was anonymous, there are a number of proper full backs better than Steward but Borthwick won't pick them.

Longer term, today could be good for England

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I also agree with all of the above. I was thinking that England were missing Lawrence during the match.

 

[Pross]

Not sure why Finn wasn't MotM = he wasn't even on their shortlist.

And why the plaudits for Earl? He was decidedly average today. Lile Pillock, he does a lot of the showy stuff but not enough of the graft.
England need changes at 15 and 12, plus bring Lawrence into 13 and put Freeman on the wing.

I was amazed Russell didn’t get on the shortlist but I’d have given it to Darge though. Steyn was very good too though.

It felt like more than an 11 point game. Considering England were down to 14 for 20 minutes the score feels fairly respectable. Scotland probably had their worst part of the game during the 20 minute red though, they went off the boil a bit.

 

[Pross]

Steward feels like a one trick pony and Steyn was better at that trick today.