This is why we get a bad name...

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glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
People will limit criticism of motorists to certain subsets, such as cabbies, private hires, WVM, Audis etc, tarring them with the same brush of bad driving behaviours but never generalise it to encompass all drivers.

Unfortunately we do get bad name because people who see poorly behaved cyclists can't identify them as a smaller subset, so tar us all with the same brush. I know that it is idiotic and shouldn't be the case but look at any news outlet's cycling story where public comments are allowed and you'll see it at work.

GC
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
No, he doesn't give us all a bad name, he gives himself a bad name. We really need to dismiss the collective responsibility BS.
When you see someone driving badly, does that give all drivers a bad name?
Do bank robbers and rapists give skiers a bad name simply because they all wear balaclavas?
Did Joe Stalin give all people called Joe a bad name?

Of course not, it's idiotic.
Err..

BMW drivers
Audi drivers
Car drivers
Drivers
Ex drivers
People even thinking about driving
Motorcyclists
Electric bike riders
Pedestrians.

All apparently collective idiots according to these very pages, why would you insist human nature is any different when applied to cyclists.

Bad apples DO spoil the cart,unfortunately

Don't get me started on balaclava wearing skiers...splitters the lot of em.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
What pages?

Quite.
I've never seen anyone state that all drivers are idiots, nor even that all BMW drivers are.
I have seen people suggest that Audi drivers might be over-represented in the idiot contingent, but that's very different.
 
Quite.
I've never seen anyone state that all drivers are idiots, nor even that all BMW drivers are.
I have seen people suggest that Audi drivers might be over-represented in the idiot contingent, but that's very different.
A few I've seen on these very pages...
Audi driver = road-nazi.
"...even an idiot in a BMW shouldn't need...."
"Audi = Another Useless Driver Inside"
"..these oversized 4x4 pick ups are invariably driven by morons..."

These are all obviously light heearted, and I'm sure thos on car forums 'light heartedly" refer to cyclists as redlight jumping anti social losers
 
In context, that was about a teenaged driver with a conviction for using a mobile while driving his £30k car who blasted his horn and close-passed a horse rider at speed. Maybe not a nazi, definitely a twit.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
What pages?

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/so-yesterday-i-bought-a-copy-of.150780/#post-2952265
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/£300-a-week-on-petrol.150307/post-2944648
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/you-couldnt-make-it-up.147464/#post-2873576
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/tales-from-todays-commute.105055/post-2870781
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/baby-boomers-wheres-my-audi-then.145374/#post-2815615
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/its-not-only-cyclists.144172/#post-2783104
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/top-ten-drivers-who-scare-me.143829/#post-2773441
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/pond-life-any-experts.142188/#post-2723503
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/priority-on-roundabouts.140583/#post-2683082
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/emma-on-way-to-court.135407/post-2584672
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/dangerous-drivers.135815/#post-2560480
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/police-action-in-liverpool.135554/#post-2554506
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/driving.135481/post-2554066
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/new-car.135004/post-2548811
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/asian-drivers-worse.134178/post-2524245
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/child-care-how-to-park-your-audi-4x4.129515/#post-2436939
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/child-care-how-to-park-your-audi-4x4.129515/#post-2436305
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/£300-a-week-on-petrol.150307/post-2945899
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/national-name-your-car-day-today.140854/post-2690030


and so on.......
 
Again, specifically those posts are drawing attention to bad driving. the car involved happens to conform to the stereotype.
 

Sara_H

Guru
I was driving to work in my tin box and I nearly ran a cyclist over.

He opted to filter into oncoming traffic (on the wrong side of the road)

I nearly hit him as he just appeared at my end of my bonnet from nowhere. The traffic was stationary on the other side and he just emerged onto the wrong side of the road.

I made my feelings known about his blatant stupidity and all he did was make a face at me. I'm pretty sure he would have given me the finger had he not had handlebars to hold on to!

It's irresponsible people like this that give us all a bad name, sadly :sad: It kinda shook me up, could have killed the guy.
Jimmy Saville gives all men a bad name.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/so-yesterday-i-bought-a-copy-of.150780/#post-2952265
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/£300-a-week-on-petrol.150307/page-4#post-2944648
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/you-couldnt-make-it-up.147464/#post-2873576
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/tales-from-todays-commute.105055/post-2870781
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/baby-boomers-wheres-my-audi-then.145374/#post-2815615
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/its-not-only-cyclists.144172/#post-2783104
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/top-ten-drivers-who-scare-me.143829/#post-2773441
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/pond-life-any-experts.142188/#post-2723503
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/priority-on-roundabouts.140583/#post-2683082
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/emma-on-way-to-court.135407/post-2584672
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/dangerous-drivers.135815/#post-2560480
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/police-action-in-liverpool.135554/#post-2554506
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/driving.135481/post-2554066
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/new-car.135004/post-2548811
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/asian-drivers-worse.134178/post-2524245
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/child-care-how-to-park-your-audi-4x4.129515/#post-2436939
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/child-care-how-to-park-your-audi-4x4.129515/#post-2436305
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/£300-a-week-on-petrol.150307/page-5#post-2945899
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/national-name-your-car-day-today.140854/post-2690030


and so on.......

Dont think you can really put that in the same breadth as cyclehatred style of posts, tweets and webpages etc. Some of it is clearly tongue in cheek (Tosser's Chariot being an example)
 
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