Truck drivers forum perspective of cyclist fatality.

Brandane

Rain; It's not big and it's not clever!
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Costa Clyde.
Not sure where to post this as the original thread regarding the death of a 30 year old female cyclist in Victoria, London, on Cyclist Down has been locked.
A tragic event for everyone involved.
Some might be interested to read the posts on TruckNet UK regarding the incident. Some are quite balanced; others are from the odd meat-heads. This is not intended to stir up the "them and us" argument between cyclists and truck drivers; myself and others on here do both. It is simply to show how the incident is viewed from a different perspective, and hopefully demonstrate the differing needs of other road users.
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
Have to say the majority seemed to be sensible posts.

One step in the right direction would be to stop the practice of drivers being paid bonuses for each delivery.

Tipper drivers in particular are often paid per drop and they feature highly in fatal accident statistics.

A public information type advert on TV would help something graphic to discourage cyclists undertaking HGVs though it has to be said I dont know if thats what happened in this particular tragedy.
 
Some excellent drivers there. Cyclists undertaking is a known problem, everyone knows it happens, it's one of the single most common complaints about cyclists after rljing.

Mod edit: some content removed. This is a general discussion about the problem not a specific case study.
 
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classic33

Legendary Member
Having posted on there, as a cyclist, I found the majority of posters there, to be willing to approach the subject with an open mind.
 
(To put that into perspective, going by conviction rates alone, for every twenty lorries that overtake a cyclist, one of them has a fiddled tachograph, the driver has tampered with the evidence of his driving). As for that link it's an exercise in self-serving. Look at the ratio in the comments between suggestions as to how to prevent deaths versus just a general whinge about cyclists. Going by recent fatalities you are three times more likely to be killed by a lorry driver who is looking at pornography on his mobile phone than you are by a cyclist in any circumstances, and the posters on that link maintain cyclists are the problem, it's darkly comic.
 

Stu Smith

Über Member
Location
Lancashire
And how many Taxi drivers, Van drivers, Couriers..Drive far more hours than the truck driver because they are not governed by Tachograph rules.. Plus the Car driver who as worked a 12 hour shift then gets into his or her car and drives tired..

killed by a lorry driver who is looking at pornography on his mobile phone
All other drivers excluded from this?
There are Good LGV drivers there are bad LGV drivers..There are Good cyclist and Bad cyclist..

Its about respecting each road users problems and limitations..
 

Sara_H

Guru
The thread linked to has been closed.
 
And how many Taxi drivers, Van drivers, Couriers..Drive far more hours than the truck driver because they are not governed by Tachograph rules.. Plus the Car driver who as worked a 12 hour shift then gets into his or her car and drives tired..


All other drivers excluded from this?
There are Good LGV drivers there are bad LGV drivers..There are Good cyclist and Bad cyclist..

Its about respecting each road users problems and limitations..
Bad cyclists struggle to kill 4 people, bad lorry drivers can. Therefore the standard amongs lorry drivers should be higher.
 

Stu Smith

Über Member
Location
Lancashire
Resources should be allocated proportionately to the danger they create. Cyclists toward the bottom, lorries towards the top
Most LGV drivers are assessed each year with the company they drive for..Our drivers are re-assessed twice yearly with a fully qualified driver trainer..
There will be companys that don't do this .But when was the last time a car driver was re-assessed?
What sort of training is required for the cyclist?
 
Most LGV drivers are assessed each year with the company they drive for..Our drivers are re-assessed twice yearly with a fully qualified driver trainer..
There will be companys that don't do this .But when was the last time a car driver was re-assessed?
What sort of training is required for the cyclist?
None for cyclists as they kill less than tangerines do. I agree car drivers should be reassessed.
 
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