Two-wheeled trolls...

[mjr]

Rights of way only apply when starting a manoeuvre surely. The bus started passing the cars before or, arguably at the same time, as the cyclist deliberately accelerated to make a point. 50 : 50 for me tbh.

No. The bus had passed one group of cars but should have waited in the next gap for the road to be clear before pulling back out to pass the single car where it met the cyclist. The cyclist could have avoided it, but that doesn't make it right

We SHARE the roads people!

And that attitude is why we hate the expression "share the road". We cannot both occupy the same piece of road at the same time!

 

[winjim]

Whatever we think about the cyclist and his historical nobbery - the bus is 100% in the wrong. He had every opportunity to slow down or pull in. But decided to push on through regardless. He gambled that he'd left the cyclist 'enough' room. But squeezing the cyclist to the side like that shows an utter disregard and contempt his safety. It's every day low leverl aggression like this that makes our roads so toxic and unpleasant to ride a bike on.

The actions of the bus driver may or may not have been wrong, but they were entirely predictable. The cyclist was playing chicken to make a point, a point which is undermined by his own actions in several of his other videos. The bus driver may or may not be contributing to unpleasantness on the roads, but the cyclist is certainly perpetuating the image of cyclists as self righteous self entitled nobbers, which doesn't help the situation.

 

[raleighnut]

The actions of the bus driver may or may not have been wrong, but they were entirely predictable. The cyclist was playing chicken to make a point, a point which is undermined by his own actions in several of his other videos. The bus driver may or may not be contributing to unpleasantness on the roads, but the cyclist is certainly perpetuating the image of cyclists as self righteous self entitled nobbers, which doesn't help the situation.

Wot e said.

 

[summerdays]

The bus driver was already overtaking cars, and yes there was a space but not huge in terms of a bus, so I think the bus should have continued but reduced his speed so that he was going slower as he passed. However if I'd have been the cyclist I'd have definitely waited for the bus and been quite happy to do so - it's nice to have a bit of give and take and recognise the problems of another road user.

 

[Origamist]

Jeez, you could get a bus into that space...

 

[mickle]

The actions of the bus driver may or may not have been wrong, but they were entirely predictable. The cyclist was playing chicken to make a point, a point which is undermined by his own actions in several of his other videos. The bus driver may or may not be contributing to unpleasantness on the roads, but the cyclist is certainly perpetuating the image of cyclists as self righteous self entitled nobbers, which doesn't help the situation.

Forget about his other videos for a minute. The actions of the bus driver were wrong. Wrong behaviour doesn't become right as a consequence of it being predictable. The cyclist was proceeding along the road and had priority. The bus driver should have ceded priority to the cyclist by slowing and or pulling in to the large visible gap in the row of parked cars. At what point are we expected to jump into a frickin hedge when some twunt is bearing down on us? 20ft? 10ft? 5? The cyclist held his ground, just as I would have, because if we all jump out of the way when drivers deliberately try to intimidate us off the road we might as well hang up our wheels right now. Because a cyclist cannot 'play chicken' witha frickin bus.The bus driver is contributing to a general culture of unpleasantness and antipathy towards cyclists on the roads. And frankly, the concept of 'perpetuating the image of cyclists as self-entitled nobbers' is bunk.

 

[winjim]

Forget about his other videos for a minute. The actions of the bus driver were wrong. Wrong behaviour doesn't become right as a consequence of it being predictable. The cyclist was proceeding along the road and had priority. The bus driver should have ceded priority to the cyclist by slowing and or pulling in to the large visible gap in the row of parked cars. At what point are we expected to jump into a frickin hedge when some twunt is bearing down on us? 20ft? 10ft? 5? The cyclist held his ground, just as I would have, because if we all jump out of the way when drivers deliberately try to intimidate us off the road we might as well hang up our wheels right now. Because a cyclist cannot 'play chicken' witha frickin bus.The bus driver is contributing to a general culture of unpleasantness and antipathy towards cyclists on the roads. And frankly, the concept of 'perpetuating the image of cyclists as self-entitled nobbers' is bunk.

If the bus driver has done anything wrong then hopefully that will be addressed by his employers who have the footage. What do you claim is bunk? That some see cyclists as nobbers, or that the actions of this cyclist help to perpetuate this image?

 

[mickle]

If the bus driver has done anything wrong then hopefully that will be addressed by his employers who have the footage. What do you claim is bunk? That some see cyclists as nobbers, or that the actions of this cyclist help to perpetuate this image?

That the actions of some cyclists can be considered to reflect badly on all cyclists. We don't apply this bizarre attitude to drivers, or black people, women... why cyclists? Who are these 'self righteous self entitled' cyclists of which you speak? I'm not sure i've ever met one, or seen one. Do you read the Daily Mail?

 

[raleighnut]

Why? It's daylight...

Streetlights are just coming on and every vehicle has its headlamps on, I'd have my lights on.

 

[winjim]

That the actions of some cyclists can be considered to reflect badly on all cyclists. We don't apply this bizarre attitude to drivers, or black people, women... why cyclists? Who are these 'self righteous self entitled' cyclists of which you speak? I'm not sure i've ever met one, or seen one. Do you read the Daily Mail?

Please don't mistake my acknowledgement of an opinion as an endorsement. Some cyclists are nobbers. Some people extrapolate this and think that all cyclists are nobbers. The cyclist in the video has uploaded footage of himself behaving like a nobber, which may reinforce that prejudice.

ETA: Some people do apply this thinking to black folk, or women. These people are dickheads.

 

[mjr]

[QUOTE 4060515, member: 45"]He did say that he had a superbright front light on. I don't see any evidence of this in the clip.[/QUOTE]
Helmet cameras seem notoriously bad at showing light that's reflected back, rather than emitted light from other vehicle headlights. This isn't the first clip on here to demonstrate it.

 

[raleighnut]

Streetlights were coming on? You sure...

Some were, some weren't. Doesn't mean he needs lights. Doesn't mean the bus driver wasn't a nobber.

As it is I think the cyclist is a bit of a nobber but that doesn't in any way excuse the bus driver.

I'm not saying it does excuse the bus driver (who is clearly a winker) but when you are banging on the pearly gates it isn't any use telling St Peter "but I had the right of way" now is it.
Maybe you disagree but I for one wouldn't argue with a bus, I would have sent a copy of the footage (if I could be arsed to buy a camera) to the company but to post it on t'internet when it is clearly 2 dickheads having a non-event.

 

[Drago]

I have in the past stood there, watch paramedics treat a cyclist with his chin bone sticking put his knee, and then listened to him shout at me "it was my right of way" as the meatwagon doors closed as if that will somehow help him walk again.

Mickle is right, people shouldn't judge whole swathes of society by the actions off few. Unfortunately, life isn't perfect and cyclists in particular at under more scrutiny in the media etc than car drivers. One bellend cyclist does our cause far, far more harm than one nobwad car driver does.

 

[bpsmith]

Just watched the video again. Still can't see how this is newsworthy.

Cyclist doesn't need to change position on the road. Wasn't that close a call, otherwise he wouldn't have risked taking one hand off the bars to sound that ridiculous horn.

 

[Bollo]

I have in the past stood there, watch paramedics treat a cyclist with his chin bone sticking put his knee, ......

...... and then listened to him shout at me "it was my right of way" as the meatwagon doors closed as if that will somehow help him walk again.

Mickle is right, people shouldn't judge whole swathes of society by the actions off few. Unfortunately, life isn't perfect and cyclists in particular at under more scrutiny in the media etc than car drivers. One bellend cyclist does our cause far, far more harm than one nobwad car driver does.

I'm sympathetic with both sides of the argument but I long ago gave up trying to be a 'cause' (except a cause for distress on our finances when I go bike shopping).

I'm no shrinking violet while riding and dislike bullying intensely, whether in a car or on two wheels, but I'd never get myself into a confrontation or standoff without a very clear exit available. There's no point being right and dead.