Two-wheeled trolls...

[Lonestar]

Mickle is right, people shouldn't judge whole swathes of society by the actions off few. Unfortunately, life isn't perfect and cyclists in particular at under more scrutiny in the media etc than car drivers. One bellend cyclist does our cause far, far more harm than one nobwad car driver does.

They shouldn't but they do at my workplace.Same old same old,every time.

 

[mjr]

Cyclist doesn't need to change position on the road. Wasn't that close a call, otherwise he wouldn't have risked taking one hand off the bars to sound that ridiculous horn.

Aren't those horns on thumb triggers?

 

[bpsmith]

Aren't those horns on thumb triggers?

You clearly know more than me. Personally, I have no idea, as would not entertain one on my bike, thanks.

 

[jefmcg]

We don't apply this bizarre attitude to drivers, or black people, women?

Yeah, we do, all the time. "Woman driver" used to absolutely be a term of abuse. And applying something across the board to black people is called racism. It has a name because it is something that exists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/road-safety/11280402/Why-women-drivers-drive-me-mad.html

I remember reading Anne Frank at school, and her complaining that if a Jew did something wrong, it tarred the whole race

(I'm not certain about either tarred or race in that sentence, but you know what I mean)

 

[jefmcg]

You clearly know more than me. Personally, I have no idea, as would not entertain one on my bike, thanks.

I had an airzounds on my bike briefly decades ago. I found that in an emergency situation, I focused much more avoiding danger than operating the horn, so only used it in not-quite-emergency situations, or after the immediate danger had passed - in both cases to "punish" the driver. The only effect I could be sure it had was raising my adrenaline levels. I got rid of it pretty quickly.

Might have felt differently if I didn't have a very loud shout.

 

[bpsmith]

I had an airzounds on my bike briefly decades ago. I found that in an emergency situation, I focused much more avoiding danger than operating the horn, so only used it in not-quite-emergency situations, or after the immediate danger had passed - in both cases to "punish" the driver. The only effect I could be sure it had was raising my adrenaline levels. I got rid of it pretty quickly.

Might have felt differently if I didn't have a very loud shout.

Exactly how I would be. Not why I choose to cycle. I tend to cycle to lower the stress levels, not raise it by holding my thumb on a horn deafening only myself.

 

[winjim]

Yeah, we do, all the time. "Woman driver" used to absolutely be a term of abuse. And applying something across the board to black people is called racism. It has a name because it is something that exists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/road-safety/11280402/Why-women-drivers-drive-me-mad.html

I remember reading Anne Frank at school, and her complaining that if a Jew did something wrong, it tarred the whole race

(I'm not certain about either tarred or race in that sentence, but you know what I mean)

What a peculiar article. I can only assume it was considered acceptable for publication because the author is a woman.

 

[jefmcg]

What a peculiar article. I can only assume it was considered acceptable for publication because the author is a woman.

Oh god, you didn't actually read the article did you? I'm sorry, I skimmed the first line - I would never read it or suggest someone else should.

Remember that's newspaper that puts cycling articles under .../men/recreational-cycling

 

[winjim]

Oh god, you didn't actually read the article did you? I'm sorry, I skimmed the first line - I would never read it or suggest someone else should.

Remember that's newspaper that puts cycling articles under .../men/recreational-cycling

It's worth a read, if only for its strangely awful weirdness.

 

[Drago]

It was one Helluva smack!

 

[mjr]

You clearly know more than me. Personally, I have no idea, as would not entertain one on my bike, thanks.

I considered getting one a while ago. On rural A roads and on some London streets, there are some motorists who seem not to hear bells, see lights or for that matter an angry six-foot-ish guy on a bike. I decided they probably wouldn't react to anything less than the apocalypse, so the horn would just be a waste of effort refilling it all the while.

 

[BEHMOTH66]

I'm not saying it does excuse the bus driver (who is clearly a winker) but when you are banging on the pearly gates it isn't any use telling St Peter "but I had the right of way" now is it.
Maybe you disagree but I for one wouldn't argue with a bus, I would have sent a copy of the footage (if I could be arsed to buy a camera) to the company but to post it on t'internet when it is clearly 2 dickheads having a non-event.

You are wrong if we all had to take up this subservient attitude when riding we wouldn't get 50 yards without walking our bike the rest of the way to our destination.

 

[raleighnut]

You are wrong if we all had to take up this subservient attitude when riding we wouldn't get 50 yards without walking our bike the rest of the way to our destination.

I've managed to get wherever I want by Bicycle for the last 50 years, still I suppose that having no other form of transport (through choice) means I just get on with it.

 

[summerdays]

You are wrong if we all had to take up this subservient attitude when riding we wouldn't get 50 yards without walking our bike the rest of the way to our destination.

There is a huge difference between being subservient and being polite, I've stood my ground plenty of times and not let drivers walk all over me, but allowing a large vehicle to get along a parked up road which is probably a pain to go along each day multiple times, I don't see the problem with it. I get lots of drivers helping me when I'm out on the bike and I like to return that favour. Those who never help another road user create a more hostile environment to cycle and drive in.

 

[mjr]

...but allowing a large vehicle to get along a parked up road which is probably a pain to go along each day multiple times, I don't see the problem with it.

If it's that much of a pain to drive a bus along while obeying the highway code, either the parking should be restricted or the bus rerouted, but it's not really for people on bikes to do the bus company's job of talking with the council or traffic commissioner.