Two-wheeled trolls...

[mjr]

No, it's meant to denote the back of a bus with a rear view of a cyclist overtaking it on the offside:

If it's a rear view, why are half the lights white?

EDIT: ho ho ho and the image was from a "Safety Tip" from our colleagues at CCNB who seem to have wandered off-message the last few years, supporting the Turbogate misuse of cycling safety budget for a motoring project and no longer answering emails from volunteers at other cycle campaigns. Their last Turbogate update on http://www.ccnb.org.uk/infrastructureb.html seems to have been 2015. I wonder why.

That, and the "Pass with Care", seem pretty reasonable advice to me.

Why's the advice written so small that I've never noticed it before? Although, to be fair, when one of these leviathans is throwing its weight around, I'm usually more concerned about whether it's going to leave me any road to ride on than about reading all its adverts and signs in full.

And the pictogram (which I thought was telling cyclists to ride past and not attempt to board) can get bent because if there's a cycle track on the left, as there often is here, then I'm passing on the left rather than bumping over a kerb and crossing into oncoming traffic, no matter what a badly-designed sticker says.

 

[mjr]

maybe I should put a sign on my back do not pass within 3 feet on my right, do you think motorist would take a blind bit of notice?

I had a car version of this too, but I can't find it now:

 

[mjr]

It's arguable whether the bus was already passing the parked cars when the cyclist deliberately continued, just to prove a point. An inch clearance? Hardly.

[QUOTE 4066371, member: 45"]It was more than an inch clearance. You can see it was, and this bloke lies.[/QUOTE]

OK, so how much clearance do others think there was? How steep would the incline need to be for it to be unreasonable for the uphill cyclist to have to stop?

I think that opinions, like your own, are what make up said 39% of that 5 year old report.

In case it wasn't already clear, I ride on the roads, so I would be part of the 61%. Thanks for the pointer to the 2013 figure, but please refrain from attributing opinions to others incorrectly.

 

[BEHMOTH66]

Some would. Some wouldn't. Same as the bus sign really. Fail to see your point.

because people are quoting signs on busses or HGV's they think it is the law and if I have a sign on my back doesn't make it a law either, I'd probably get a lot more agro if I have this sign showing

 

[martint235]

because people are quoting signs on busses or HGV's they think it is the law and if I have a sign on my back doesn't make it a law either, I'd probably get a lot more agro if I have this sign showing

Who thinks it's the law? And since when did the law come with "Please"?

There's all kinds of stickers on buses and HGVs. I tend to ignore most of them.

 

[mjr]

because people are quoting signs on busses or HGV's they think it is the law and if I have a sign on my back doesn't make it a law either, I'd probably get a lot more agro if I have this sign showing

Yes, I got a lot of aggro when I used that sign in London. Mind you, hundreds of us were blocking Blackfriars Bridge at the time...

 

[martint235]

[QUOTE 4066472, member: 45"]I've already given my view. The bus didn't barge past, there was plenty of room. The cyclist was travelling slowly anyway so it would have caused him no trouble to move closer to the side, drop his left leg and let the bus past. But no, this angry man has to exaggerate, blast his horn and post another victim clip on YouTube. Right next to the one where he falls off his bike because he slaps a passing car and unbalances himself, then blames the driver for his own stupidity.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, you do know that nothing, absolutely nothing, is allowed to impede a cyclist from travelling at whatever speed he/she chooses in whatever position because we are special.

 

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[DaveReading]

If it's a rear view, why are half the lights white?

Don't ask me.

If the picture was meant to denote a bus coming towards you, advice on the correct way to overtake it would be pretty superfluous.

 

[winjim]

If it's a rear view, why are half the lights white?

Don't ask me.

If the picture was meant to denote a bus coming towards you, advice on the correct way to overtake it would be pretty superfluous.

The indicators on one side are lit, denoting that the vehicle is turning left. The advice is therefore not don't ever ride up the nearside of a bus, but rather don't ride up the nearside of a left-turning bus.

 

[mjr]

[QUOTE 4066472, member: 45"]I've already given my view. The bus didn't barge past, there was plenty of room.[/QUOTE]
Wonderfully vague. The most precise I see earlier is "more than an inch". How much more? Metric or imperial, as you please.

[QUOTE 4066472, member: 45"]The cyclist was travelling slowly anyway so it would have caused him no trouble to move closer to the side, drop his left leg and let the bus past.[/QUOTE]
So how fast would he have to be travelling up that slope before you consider that the cyclist should be rewarded with the normal priority? Would you have "no trouble" starting off again if you were forced to stop in the wide bit at the bottom of Monk's Steps between Worlebury and Kewstoke, because you'd be going pretty slowly?

 

[mjr]

If the picture was meant to denote a bus coming towards you, advice on the correct way to overtake it would be pretty superfluous.

If they want us to overtake on the right when appropriate (when you normally would), then putting a sign saying "CYCLISTS" which can be read when nothing else can be on the left of the bus seems a bit stupid... which is why I thought it was simply an announcement of their notorious no-bikes-not-even-folders policy and didn't look closely enough.

The indicators on one side are lit, denoting that the vehicle is turning left. The advice is therefore not don't ever ride up the nearside of a bus, but rather don't ride up the nearside of a left-turning bus.

The lights are red and white, so isn't that stopped but in reverse gear? It can't be night because the cycle has no lights. So it's not to ride up the left of a stopped bus?

 

[mjr]

[QUOTE 4066608, member: 45"]Dunno what you're being arsey for. Both the driver and the cyclist could have given way, and both ought to have.[/QUOTE]
I sort-of agree but I dunno what you're being arsey for - don't you like being asked to quantify how much space you think he had and when cyclists shouldn't be expected to give way more than motorists?

 

[winjim]

The lights are red and white, so isn't that stopped but in reverse gear? It can't be night because the cycle has no lights. So it's not to ride up the left of a stopped bus?

Really? I can't tell if you're just being contrary.