Typical 4X4's

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Joe24 said:
The Skoda could pull the offroader on a trailor though Dr Linf;)

You need to stop smoking the weed Joe, you are talking in riddles tonight.

We aren't in the states BTW, it's 'Trailer' ;)
 
Joe24 said:
The Skoda could pull the offroader on a trailor though Dr Linf;)

A car trailer weighs in at least 1 metric tonne (maybe more). Unless you are towing a kit car of less than 800kg, you would be overweight with a 2.0TDi Superb which has a towing limit of 1800KG in a braked trailer.

If your old man is exceeding the MAM with all his generators and other gear, you might well find he is actually towing illegally.

Don't take my word for it of course, the Skoda website give all the numbers on maximum towing capacity when you look at the weights section. http://www.skoda.co.uk/ourcars.aspx
 
Tee hee. Macho boys talking butch.

How many footballer hijacks have there been in Manchester? Do the Bentley convertibles that many of them drive have invisible force-fields around them?

You've been fed a testosterone line and sucked it up good and proper.

Again, it illustrates the point very well. 4x4 drivers thinking they're going to come across a scene from Mad Max in the Cheshire countryside. Suits the image perfectly doesn't it? I can smell the testosterone.

"SAS boy"???

Let's offroad!!!

No, the car was immaculate when I bought it. It had only been imported a 18 months before from Japan. The first person to take it offroad was me.

Do you honestly think he would have been taken seriously by his employer if he turned up to collect the footballers family in a Tino ?

The guy was most certainly not macho in demeanour, or build. I had no idea that he was until I went into the study to sort the docs out and saw the pics from his army career on the wall and I asked him why he was selling it.

He just looked like an average guy.
 
Joe24 said:
Actually linf he wasnt and he could have towed more;)

The trailer wasn't that heavy then was it :biggrin:

Perhaps we can set up a test one day.

I'll hook up both cars with a recovery strap in a nice soft field in the middle of winter, Drag the skoda into the middle of it and then he can drive it out under its own steam :smile:
 
You haven't answered my questions.

When was the last footballer hijack in Cheshire?

How much is the optional extra force-field only available on the sports cars of footballers?

What's with your big-man-Mad-Max mercinary excitement?

Are there special laws for Shogun-driving bodyguards that we don't know about?

There's a bloke near here who owns a bright yellow Hummer. He thinks it makes him look like the terminator. All it really does is show that he fell for the marketing and bought a re-shaped bog-standard US school-run car.

Well done, I think the Hummer is shyte as well.

I'm not defending the footballers own driving.

What law is there against using reasonable force to avoid an abduction attempt ?

If you recall, there was a couple of kidnap plots on the Beckhams a few years ago. If these footballers want a bodyguard service, what is wrong with supplying them with it ?

When you are earning £100k per week and live in the public domain, you become a target for all sorts of types.
 

jimboalee

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very-near said:
No, the car was immaculate when I bought it. It had only been imported a 18 months before from Japan. The first person to take it offroad was me.

Do you honestly think he would have been taken seriously by his employer if he turned up to collect the footballers family in a Tino ?

The guy was most certainly not macho in demeanour, or build. I had no idea that he was until I went into the study to sort the docs out and saw the pics from his army career on the wall and I asked him why he was selling it.

He just looked like an average guy.

He bought a Japan spec re-import? Cheapskate:laugh:

Why didn't he go for a kevlar lined, armour plated, toughened glass 'Special Vehicle Operations' car direct from Solihull if the job was THAT serious :biggrin::laugh::smile::laugh::smile:
 
jimboalee said:
He bought a Japan spec re-import? Cheapskate:laugh:

Why didn't he go for a kevlar lined, armour plated, toughened glass 'Special Vehicle Operations' car direct from Solihull if the job was THAT serious :biggrin::laugh::smile::laugh::smile:

It wasn't that cheap when he bought it. I've had the car myself since 03.

After watching them in action off road (at a few of the the abingdon meets organised by Abingdon landrovers club), I've changed my opinion of Landrover as a class leader - most of them broke down as soon as they hit a puddle, and were no more capable than any other make or model on the course.

Give me a Japanese 4x4 any day.

How much did you say these armoured Lawnmowers cost ?
 
No footballer has ever been kidnapped in the UK. Nor his family.

Your 4x4 was bought for image. Whether it's his boss telling him or his own decision, it was intended to portray the image of a hard man.

Most chauffeurs of that type use those Merc people carriers or Grand Voyagers.

Saying that you've bought a 4x4 so that you can smash your way out of trouble is pathetic.

So you say that everyone who buys a 4x4 does so to portray the image of a hard man - have you any idea how ridiculous you are sounding :smile:

He most certainly didn't come across that way. He was public school and in his 50's. He sold it because he wanted a change of direction. He gave me the impression that the most valuable asset was being able to assess and act upon a situation, and not just throw ones weight around. The ability to use the mass of a vehicle to move another one is obviously a last resort.

When bank robber types go ram raiding (IE need something heavy to go through an obstacle), they use 4x4s, not Grand voyagers or Nissan people carriers or 2CV's :smile:

The heavier the vehicle, the easier it is to push something else out of its way. That is the reason he chose it, and I chose it because it is heavy enough to tow a heavy trailer with a good margin of safety. It's not rocket science :biggrin:
 
No I don't.

You're not talking about illegal robberies. You're talking about chauffeuring.

You said he chose it because his boss wouldn't want him driving anything else.

All about image linfy. This isn't Basra.

I did ?

Would you say that a footballer earning £100k per week is at greater risk of robbery than someone like you ?

Also given that he was selling it to buy a Fiesta so he could teach people to drive indicates that ego is not a problem to him.

So if you pissed someone off in your Tino, and they did a road rage thing, came at you and your family with a knife or baseball bat, and you could get away by pushing their car out of the way with yours, would you just sit there or put your foot down ?
 
You've got the dimmer on this morning.

You're talking about victims of robbery now. Before you were talking about perpetrators.

A footballer does not need to buy a 4x4 so that he can smash his way into a bank.

A footballer does not need to buy a 4x4 so that he can smash his way out of trouble on the road.

Stop being so ridiculous.

When there were rumours of a kidnap plotb on the Beckhams, they didn't hire in mercinaries. They called the police.

Again, this is the UK, not Iraq.

I think you will find that most of these high profile types use the services of private security firms.

I saw Jordan walking through the Bullring a few years ago with a couple of enormous bodyguards. Using a big lump of a car for this type of work goes with the territory.

The customers of these firms expect a visible physical presence from those guarding them at the end of the day.
 
Again, this is the UK, not Iraq. Your (claimed) ex-SAS "boy" that you're so eager to rub yourself up against was only interested in image.


I think your ego takes a real hammering when faced with someone with those sort of credentials - which is sad

I accepted his credentials given what I saw and what he said. I have no reason to doubt him.

Why would he want sell it to spend his days driving a Fiesta with L plates if image was a primary concern ?

You are like this with Bikers, you are like this with regular 4x4 drivers, you are now like this with people who work protecting other people. You see something you don't have the skills or bottle for as an affront to your sensibilities.

You come across as very insecure.
 
You said that it was part of the company's image requirement.




On the contrary. It's because I'm so comfortable in myself that I can see the pointlessness of trying to buy self-image.

No, I said that was what his customers expected to see. He was a freelance from what I gather.

Why are you so insecure if you claim you are so comfortable in yourself :biggrin:

You really have an enormous chip on your shoulder. :smile:
 
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