Typical 4X4's

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The differences that an MTB has over another type of bike are equally worthless if it never goes off road. But this thread isn't about MTBs, it's about school run 4x4s.

That doesn't stop them being the most popular of cycles purchased by a country mile.
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
I don't see the appeal of using a 4 x 4 as everyday transport if you didn't actually need it but I defend people's right to make that choice. And anyone who thinks a normal road car is as good off road as a 4x4 is sadly mistaken or has never tried in the winter. Many modern cars have very poor ground clearance anyway so are completely unsuitable for going into fields. If you do see a 4x4 stuck in a field, it's most probably because either the owner hasn't a clue how to drive or it has been fitted with road tyres.

With regards to the eco argument, proper 4x4s are strongly built work horses which will have much longer lifespan than some cheapo tin box city car. This could possibly make them greener in the long term.
 
Probably someone who rides past a school and sees a gaggle of X5s/XC90s with not a scratch on them parked outside a school.

If you had half a noggin you'd realise that yummie mummies don't join 4x4 clubs.

Again, you know as well as anyone that the majority people who buy 4x4s for status holiday abroad, and wouldn't be seen dead in a muddy field in Warwickshire.

Bully for you. So your position is based on two specialist groups.

I've caravanned linf. I know the typical caravanner groups. Really, there's no need to explain.


HAHAHA! Manchester isn't Basra, and that type of macho nonsense is frankly ridiciculous. A typlical example of the mindset of that section of 4x4 owners.

Doh, he was a retired SAS officer working as a bodyguard for the rich and famous. He was a wiry looking chap but obviously very intelligent when conversing.

He had photos of himself all over his study hopping out of helicopters in desert locations with an automatic weapon under his arm (probably Iraq). I have no doubt that he chose the vehicle most suitable for the task.

He wasn't the average 4x4 owner by any means given his bacgkground and sold it to set up a driving school as he had enough of doing big miles to Manc every day from Hereford (you know, Hereford, the home of the SAS ;))
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
You know my nieghbour then?
Smallest piece of mud on his 4x4 and he goes into apoplexy


Stop it linf. You know as well as anyone that in certain areas a 4x4 is a status symbol and not bought because of its functions.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
ianrauk said:
You know my nieghbour then?
Smallest piece of mud on his 4x4 and he goes into apoplexy
apropos of that, I half remember that there used to be a "spray on mud" product marketed at non-offroading 4x4 owners, to give them the cachet they might otherwise have felt a lack of, didn't there?
 

skwerl

New Member
Location
London
John the Monkey said:
Isn't that the old "crime exists, so let's abolish the law" fallacy though?

The idea that because you can't do everything, the only logical choice is to do nothing.

no. it's about balance
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
So is a Skoda.

Indeed it is. But not everyone drives a Skoda. People buy Reanults for example. And anyway, the newer VAG products aren't half as well built as they used to be.
 
Doh, his background is irrelevant. You said he had a huge 4x4 to transport footballers so he could ram his way out of trouble.

Did you completely miss the reason he bought it.

He'd hardly be ferrying people around in a protective roll in a 2CV would he ;)
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Just been looking through a Powerpoint Presentation on Land Rover's internal web.

Basically, reading between the lines, the target customer for the Range Rover is an arrogant, self opinionated, grammar school educated professional. Target for the RR Sport is a self confident upper management oik. Target for the LR3 is a middle management 30 something who can't yet afford a Range Rover. Target for the Freelander is everybody not covered by the above. Target for the Defender is a Farmer, Horsey type or 'Outdoor professional' – Tree surgeon !

So the mother who's doors flew open WAS the target customer.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
John the Monkey said:
Found it - this is the chap, reported in the Gruan, so some caution needed;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jun/14/uknews

A UK company based in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, has developed a spray on mud for clean 4x4’s. It’s proved to be very popular with Londoners and it’s called ‘sprayonmud’. The washable compound is available in 75 centilitre bottles. An unfortunate by-product of this spray is that it can effectively obscure the numberplatesof vehicles using it, although the literature clearly states that it’s an offence to do so. Source: sprayonmud.com

 
jimboalee said:
A UK company based in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, has developed a spray on mud for clean 4x4’s. It’s proved to be very popular with Londoners and it’s called ‘sprayonmud’. The washable compound is available in 75 centilitre bottles. An unfortunate by-product of this spray is that it can effectively obscure the numberplatesof vehicles using it, although the literature clearly states that it’s an offence to do so. Source: sprayonmud.com


That is a so obviously a photoshopped spoof for the web design company who are hosting it :rolleyes:


Funnily enough they also host this website for a Guardian contributor :rolleyes:

http://www.robertbullard.com/blog/

He looks like a really sanctimonious knob

Pathetic :rolleyes:

Next thing you will be implying is the vid I posted up has been done with CGI generated mud :tongue:
 
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