Typical 4X4's

[jimboalee]

That is a so obviously a photoshopped spoof for the web design company who are hosting it


Funnily enough they also host this website for a Guardian contributor

http://www.robertbullard.com/blog/

He looks like a really sanctimonious knob

Pathetic

Next thing you will be implying is the vid I posted up has been done with CGI generated mud

It's a clipsheet off Land Rover's internal info network

 

[John the Monkey]

It ain't so John

Oo, you cheater!

The original message to which I replied spoke of the gentleman's hypocrisy, not the alleged sanctimony of his visage &c!

curse you and your rapid editing!

 

[Joe24]

So your trailer weighed 500kg whilst being towed by a 1200kg car.

What is your point, do you think that they bothered to put centre diff locking 4wd and an LSD on the back axle on my car as a sales gimmick or do you think it could follow mine through a track in a field which has already been churned up by other vehicles Joe ?

Do you think your old mans runaround car could follow mine through this ?

It was a twin axle trailor Linf loaded up. The car weighs alot more then 1200kg aswell, because the max caravan weight it can tow is 1600kg, but we tow less then that with out caravan.
The twin axle trailor was alot heavier then 500kg. It was 2 big diesel generators, with alot of deisel and big metal chairs. Oh, and also a pump up mast, antennas, rotator motors for the atennas, 2 big masts..........

No Linf, my dads car wouldnt be able to get through that (Skoda Superb) but we could tow another vehicle on the back of our car that would be able to get through that alot better then what your girlie 4x4 has got through it

 

[Bigtwin]

Pathetic, isn't it?

Utterly. But that's the sort of witless crap you get from people that desperate for an excuse. Laughable, but sadly true

 

[sunnyjim]

Just been looking through a Powerpoint Presentation on Land Rover's internal web.

Basically, reading between the lines, the target customer for the Range Rover is an arrogant, self opinionated, grammar school educated professional. Target for the RR Sport is a self confident upper management oik. Target for the LR3 is a middle management 30 something who can't yet afford a Range Rover. Target for the Freelander is everybody not covered by the above. Target for the Defender is a Farmer, Horsey type or 'Outdoor professional' – Tree surgeon !

So the mother who's doors flew open WAS the target customer.

I've got a 10 year old Disco - what demographic should I aspire to have been?

 

[very-near]

Utterly. But that's the sort of witless crap you get from people that desperate for an excuse. Laughable, but sadly true

It was a tool of the trade - part of the job description.

You still haven't answered the question I put to you about the types of planes you were flying ?

 

[very-near]

It was a twin axle trailor Linf loaded up. The car weighs alot more then 1200kg aswell, because the max caravan weight it can tow is 1600kg, but we tow less then that with out caravan.
The twin axle trailor was alot heavier then 500kg. It was 2 big diesel generators, with alot of deisel and big metal chairs. Oh, and also a pump up mast, antennas, rotator motors for the atennas, 2 big masts..........

No Linf, my dads car wouldnt be able to get through that (Skoda Superb) but we could tow another vehicle on the back of our car that would be able to get through that alot better then what your girlie 4x4 has got through it

That was Mitsubishi's UK training facility near Marlborough and is used by the environment agency to train their people how to handle a 4x4 off road. I was just doing it for a bit of fun.

My 4x4 was bought as a tow car for moving a heavy trailer and a couple of heavy animals safely. If I wanted an off road toy, I'd have picked up a modified short wheelbase Vitara, not a 7 seat long wheel base Shogun.

Give it up Joe, I'm not going to do the my dads bigger than your dad thing with you any more. You know jack shoot about the subject.

 

[very-near]

If you are pulling a trailer that weighs 2200kg then based on your 85% weight ratio how heavy should the towing vehicle be?

2600kg, but we've already covered that haven't we Lee

 

[very-near]

so good you said it twice

 

[very-near]

So what you are saying is that if the trailer is 2200kg then the towing vehicle should be 2600kg?

No, that is the caravan clubs (safe) guide.

 

[very-near]

Not 75%?

As for towing caravans, existing general guidance recommends that the laden weight of the caravan does not exceed 85% of the unladen weight of the car. In the majority of cases, caravans and small trailers towed by cars should be within the new category B threshold./QUOTE]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_10013073

 

[very-near]

This gets even funnier.

Is Manchester in Iraq?

Obviously not. do you think you know better than a professional bodyguard trained to the highest standards in these matters ?

Many of these ex SAS boys are doing this type of work. Why do you think he chose it ?

 

[Joe24]

Obviously not. do you think you know better than a professional bodyguard trained to the highest standards in these matters ?

Many of these ex SAS boys are doing this type of work. Why do you think he chose it ?

Do they do it in Mitsibishis though Linf?
No, because your shogun isnt a proper 4x4

 

[very-near]

Which contradicts your figures for a vehicle+trailer combination.

MrP wanted clarification on the Caravan club guidance. This is corroborated on the directgov website. It is however not the definitive law, but a safe rule of thumb.

 

[very-near]

Do they do it in Mitsibishis though Linf?

They don't do it in Skoda's Joe

What is your idea of a 'real' 4x4 ?