Update on NV55PVL

[Andrew_P]

hmmm I am quite glad that the internet, text messaging, Facebook, Twitter and MMS messaging was not aorund when I t'was a lad, pretty sure I would have got myself in to serious bovver, lol

 

[campbellab]

Which one poses more danger?

aces is right, we should be reporting crimes if we see them regardless of who commits them. Practically though its of no use to anyone if theres an unrealistic chance of identifying offender or proving that they have committed the offence (this should also be up to the police to decide . It's not for us to judge which is more dangerous, more illegal, or what action to take, thats for the police, the courts and the government to decide.

On a realistic note most people are too lazy and self centered to go about reporting every crime, and also prejudiced as aces says (I'm no different!) They also think that police cant/wont deal with it so dont bother, or that reporting a crime with decent evidence is wasting the police's time (as half the posters on this thread seem to think). Blimey what is the police's job again?

I'm sure police statistics will say most crimes are reported by the victim.

 

[aces_up1504]

Which one poses more danger?

Should that matter? In the eyes of the law? But a cyclist going through a red could equally be as dangerous as a mobile phone use

 

[aces_up1504]

aces is right, we should be reporting crimes if we see them regardless of who commits them. Practically though its of no use to anyone if theres an unrealistic chance of identifying offender or proving that they have committed the offence. It's not for us to judge which is more dangerous, more illegal, or what action to take, thats for the police, the courts and the government to decide.

On a realistic note most people are too lazy and self centered to go about reporting every crime, and also prejudiced as aces says. I'm no different. I'm sure police statistics will say most crimes are reported by the victim.

In reality as you say it no use reporting every tiny little crime, no police would ever leave his desk from being swamped.

That's why the majority of people let the police do the policing of the laws.

 

[campbellab]

In reality as you say it no use reporting every tiny little crime, no police would ever leave his desk from being swamped.

That's why the majority of people let the police do the policing of the laws.

Well that's not really the conclusion I was going for! If we leave policing to the police no-one rings 999 when they see someone being mugged.

Reporting is not Policing. I'm sure some police officers will attest they cant deal with problems if things aren't reported which can be frustrating at times.

 

[Matthew_T]

That is not an apology.

I APOLOGISE.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Getting back to the OP.

In all your time cycling and recording your rides, has a cyclist ever broken the law, say went through a red light? Did you feel the need to report them? Or it a motorists only because one nearly hit you?

In the whole time of cycling, i have went through one red light.... However i did it in threat of my safety. A car was tailgating on my rear wheel around 1foot, I was doing 20mph and the light was half way through yellow and i felt the fact the light was around 4 meters in front of me i didnt have enough room to stop let alone hope the guy at my rear stopped and didnt hit me, the light went red around the time my body past the white line, which i dont even think is a rlj since my front wheel was over. Non the less. Also hope to you suppose i report a cyclist, grab him get his address and name and then report him.... Have a think mate.

To my knowledge i have not broken away road law. Its very easy to stick by rules as long as you know them.

 

[gaz]

But a cyclist going through a red could equally be as dangerous as a mobile phone use

99.9% of the times, no.

 

[Hip Priest]

Matt, you've apologised for publishing those views, yet in the same breath admitted that they are your truthful opinions of Welsh people. So what are you apologising for exactly?

 

[aces_up1504]

In the whole time of cycling, i have went through one red light.... However i did it in threat of my safety. A car was tailgating on my rear wheel around 1foot, I was doing 20mph and the light was half way through yellow and i felt the fact the light was around 4 meters in front of me i didnt have enough room to stop let alone hope the guy at my rear stopped and didnt hit me, the light went red around the time my body past the white line, which i dont even think is a rlj since my front wheel was over. Non the less. Also hope to you suppose i report a cyclist, grab him get his address and name and then report him.... Have a think mate.

Why not make citizens arrest while your at it?

 

[gaz]

In reality as you say it no use reporting every tiny little crime, no police would ever leave his desk from being swamped.

That's why the majority of people let the police do the policing of the laws.

They seem to be doing a good job of policing the roads don't they?

 

[Cycling Dan]

Why not make citizens arrest while your at it?

Under what grounds!

 

[Hip Priest]

They seem to be doing a good job of policing the roads don't they?

A reasonable job, yes. The UK's accident statistics compare well with those of other countries. But they could do better, if given the resources. But they're not going to get those extra resources any time soon, so perhaps it's best not to waste their time.

 

[Cycling Dan]

They seem to be doing a good job of policing the roads don't they?

People still break the law and people still die, depends what you class a good.
I personally would say yes but then statistics could prove me wrong.
Alot of crimes go unreported like most rapes. No one tells the police they dont know.

 

[aces_up1504]

Under what grounds!

Was a joke, could do with a sarcasim smily