Update on NV55PVL

[veloevol]

Not reporting it is making the call and assuming too much. Reporting it lets the police make that call.

Reporting it via a mechanism like Roadsafe is different from catching offenders, attending a police station with little or no deference, providing evidence and inquiring as to the follow up.

 

[Matthew_T]

You have said a lot of things that I agree with. Especially with the police saying that "There are few cyclists in the area and you are acting like a vigilante" "You cannot go around shouting at everyone" "I have seen a few of your other videos" "You are becoming well known in the area" "Watch yourself".

All of these things were said by the inspector who dealed with the taxi incident earlier. I was especially hurt by the "vigilante" comment. They also asked "Why do you have a camera?" Most of the time I feel like saying "Why shouldnt I?" but I end up saying "In the case of an accident where the vehicle drives off".

Whenever I leave the police station after reporting something, I always end up feeling like the target of bullying somehow. People seem to just 'have a go' after they have dealt with the situation and it seems very bizarre that there is a cyclist in the area with a camera on his head.

Things like this is the main reason why I dont report 'trivial' things to the police, they will just discard it and have a go at me.

 

[black'n'yellow]

Maybe there should be some where you can email footage instead of going in to the station.

http://www.itv.com/youvebeenframed/

 

[ianrauk]

And your proof of this is?

Alan...

I have no proof. It's what I think.

But what I have seen with my own eyes is people putting the phone down when challenged. I would like to think that these people would think twice about picking it back up again afterwards. The more people who are challenged about it, the more people know it's an unreasonable way to behave. The more people who know it's unreasonable behavior, then less people would be inclined to use a phone whilst driving.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

The problem is not driving whilst using a mobile phone, which I don't do as it's against the law & my normal modus operandi is not to intentionally break the law whenever I can, it is the actual quality of driving by today's generation. I believe my level of driving is probably better than 70% of other drivers on the road, although I'm sure most people would also say exactly the same. I also believe I could drive & hold a sensible conversation on the phone better than the other 70% can drive without the conversation. The banning of the use of the mobile phone was a typical knee jerk reaction of a Government wanting the populist vote & nothing to do with safety.

Alan...

 

[Hip Priest]

Dan, do your parents know what you get up to?

 

[Cycling Dan]

The problem is not driving whilst using a mobile phone, which I don't do as it's against the law & my normal modus operandi is not to intentionally break the law whenever I can, it is the actual quality of driving by today's generation. I believe my level of driving is probably better than 70% of other drivers on the road, although I'm sure most people would also say exactly the same. I also believe I could drive & hold a sensible conversation on the phone better than the other 70% can drive without the conversation. The banning of the use of the mobile phone was a typical knee jerk reaction of a Government wanting the populist vote & nothing to do with safety.

Alan...

oh dear, delete your account and leave! Im sure you can drive drunk aswell and still be better!

 

[Cycling Dan]

Dan, do your parents know what you get up to?

Yes

 

[Hip Priest]

The problem is not driving whilst using a mobile phone, which I don't do as it's against the law & my normal modus operandi is not to intentionally break the law whenever I can, it is the actual quality of driving by today's generation. I believe my level of driving is probably better than 70% of other drivers on the road, although I'm sure most people would also say exactly the same. I also believe I could drive & hold a sensible conversation on the phone better than the other 70% can drive without the conversation. The banning of the use of the mobile phone was a typical knee jerk reaction of a Government wanting the populist vote & nothing to do with safety.

Alan...

I don't agree with this. Numerous tests, involving some very good drivers, have shown that driving whilst using a mobile has a similar effect to driving whilst drunk. So God only knows what effect texting or surfing the net has.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Back to the OP, if you do really feel that strongly about this type of incident, then maybe you should consider becoming a CSO, I have no concept of how it works, but I believe it can be done initially on a voluntary/part time basis

Alan...

 

[campbellab]

The problem is not driving whilst using a mobile phone, which I don't do as it's against the law & my normal modus operandi is not to intentionally break the law whenever I can, it is the actual quality of driving by today's generation. I believe my level of driving is probably better than 70% of other drivers on the road, although I'm sure most people would also say exactly the same.

Well at least you are right about one thing: http://blog.aaireland.ie/index.php/...0-of-drivers-rate-themselves-as-above-average (irish example easy to find but similar studies for Australia at least and think same done in UK).

I also believe I could drive & hold a sensible conversation on the phone better than the other 70% can drive without the conversation. The banning of the use of the mobile phone was a typical knee jerk reaction of a Government wanting the populist vote & nothing to do with safety.

Alan...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1885775.stm

 

[black'n'yellow]

So God only knows what effect texting or surfing the net has.

Surfing the net is fine - I'm currently doing 95mph down the M4 and didn't have any problems typing this. Fortunately, nobody filmed me either...


(I'm making this up, by the way)

 

[CopperCyclist]

I can sympathise with the police, but if they dont have the resources to handle it then they should just say that instead of belittling the person reporting the crime. We wont be pursuing this due to resources and its the station's policy not to do x y and z.

This. If they don't have the resources to deal with this, and don't want these sort of reports (which considering the current cuts I could understand) then they shouldn't have made Dan an appointment. He didn't waste anyone's time, the call handler did. They should have simply thanked Dan for his call and explained there and then it would be logged, but there aren't the resources to take it any further.

I disagree that it couldn't be taken further with video evidence from a member of public. I agree it takes some time to do so and may not be worthwhile unless you have an officer specifically tasked to do nothing but this.

This is yet another incident of government cuts biting us, and yet poor mismanagement by the police and a failure to explain the reasons WHY we can't do these things reflect badly on the police, rather than the governments crippling changes.

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

It's sad but I do understand the problems the police have with resources.

 

[Matthew_T]

Back to the OP, if you do really feel that strongly about this type of incident, then maybe you should consider becoming a CSO, I have no concept of how it works, but I believe it can be done initially on a voluntary/part time basis

I wanted to become a PCSO. I had a look on the NWP's website and researched it a little. Turns out that you need a fairly indepth knowledge of the Welsh language to become one in Wales. So that idea is out of the pot.