Update on NV55PVL

[J.Primus]

I dont think that was the order of events though. Incident -> Reported to Employer and Police. Even still reporting criminal driving to an employer when they're in an employer marked vehicle I wouldn't count as harassment.

But the police seem to in this case, and their opinion is the one that will get your collar felt no matter how in the right you think you are.

 

[campbellab]

But the police seem to in this case, and their opinion is the one that will get your collar felt no matter how in the right you think you are.

The particular police officer doesn't speak for the police on the whole, hence why I personally would follow it up with a complaint. We shouldn't be in a society where people get blamed and bad mouthed for reporting crimes, and theres plenty of precedent for informing employers of poor driving! I'm sure the police recommend it at times themselves.

 

[J.Primus]

The particular police officer doesn't speak for the police on the whole, hence why I personally would follow it up with a complaint.

If it makes him feel better then go for it, not that it will help if he's already got a reputation for wasting police time.

What's important is to drop the thing with this driver because if he keeps it up after this warning he will be in trouble. Not that anyone encouraging him will mind as it won't blow back on them.

 

[campbellab]

If it makes him feel better then go for it, not that it will help if he's already got a reputation for wasting police time.

What's important is to drop the thing with this driver because if he keeps it up after this warning he will be in trouble. Not that anyone encouraging him will mind as it won't blow back on them.

Oh definitely theres no need to continue anything with the driver, as far as I'm aware he's content that the police went and 'advised' the driver and isn't pursuing anything to do with that anymore. It'd definitely be foolish to do anything else.

The issue now is the response from the officer, which, as its been explained, is unacceptable.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

Dan, I would ignore the people who tell you to stop using a video camera. I am sure that for them it's different, but for me having the video camera running makes it easier to shrug off the bad driving most of the time because I know I can deal with it later.
However, my own policy (nowadays) regarding what I do with the videos afterwards is that I rarely post the video on YouTube unless:

• I feel someone directly put my safety at risk, or
• it shows something that I might have found useful for own learning if I saw it from someone else, or
• it shows something nice and heart-warming, like a lovely ride out on a summer day, or a deer happily avoiding being squashed by a car.

I only report to the police if:

• the driving was sufficiently bad to scare me, or
• there is clear, deliberate bullying or aggression.

I'm afraid that someone using a mobile phone, who does not directly affect me, would not meet any of these criteria, though I might be tempted to submit them to Roadsafe if we had such a thing round here.
Regarding the response of the police officer, I think I would be inclined just to forget it. If the story is as I have understood it from your account, then he was certainly out of order, but is it really worth spending your time on and getting wound up about?

 

[BentMikey]

That's a good post, MrHappy.

I agree, I doubt I would do much about phone drivers if it weren't for Roadsafe or the driver weren't in a company vehicle. Roadsafe makes it easy to bring a consequence and some education to that driver, as does reporting it to the company.

I'd have to see more than just a driver on the phone to go through the nightmare time consuming effort that is reporting stuff in person at a police station.

 

[BSRU]

Regarding the response of the police officer, I think I would be inclined just to forget it. If the story is as I have understood it from your account, then he was certainly out of order, but is it really worth spending your time on and getting wound up about?

I agree with this, after my talking to by the disinterested officer I just drew a line under the incident and forgot about it(apart from recalling it earlier) .

 

[davefb]

In a way, I think 'well yeah, i mean, come on reporting a mobile phone?"

but on the other hand, if I saw some shoplifting , drink driver , saw an assault, should I bother?

after the comments of the police officer, I'm erred towards the "nah"... if an "officer" says it's all about them, then why do the police request "our" help all the time..

 

[Cycling Dan]

I would think that after the police told you to leave it and you then went to the persons employer is where you crossed the line into harassment.
You don't have a right to do that unfortunately.
If I was you I'd concentrate on school and try and stop antagonising people before you get yourself into real trouble.

I contacted both at the same time.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Well if he meant road as in on the white lines as seen in the vid then I'd say it's not always advisable if he meant lane he's an idiot. As for the rest, he's an idiot.

At the time this was made, we were talking about my cycling in general and he was saying from seeing other videos bla bla bla you shouldnt be in the middle of the road!

 

[Cycling Dan]

I think I agree with your sentiments Boris, but I don't think Cycling Dans transcript sounds very diplomatic, as you have rightly pointed out it's the OPs version of events, but assuming they are accurate then if diplomatic was the intended sentiment I think the officer failed. Perhaps a friendly arm around the shoulder and a "Now listen son....." would have left Dan with a nice warm glow (are coppers allowed to put an arm round the shoulders?)

Very much as it was accounted for, my i was happen with the polices actions if this is what was possible, however i had emailed the insident to the company before the police. I emailed what had happened in short and the link of the video if they would like to see the footage, i then emailed the police since this was a criminal activity. I don't think this to be wrong. What i am not happy with is that i have been issued a formal warning for harassment which to my knowledge has been noted down on the police database.

 

[Cycling Dan]

I watched that 47mph clip yesterday and thought 'blimey! He's got balls doing 47 in a built-up area!'

i lied in the video for the purpose of youtube, it was more 33 mph at its highest speed. The speed was greatly exaggerated.

 

[Cycling Dan]

If you do go the route of making a complaint, I would strongly suggest you get the wording looked at by people on here.

I im typing informally, as this is to my understanding a informal forum

 

[Hip Priest]

Just FYI, the company is a one man operation. So if contacted the company to complain, it went straight to the lad in the video.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Dan, I would ignore the people who tell you to stop using a video camera. I am sure that for them it's different, but for me having the video camera running makes it easier to shrug off the bad driving most of the time because I know I can deal with it later.
However, my own policy (nowadays) regarding what I do with the videos afterwards is that I rarely post the video on YouTube unless:

• I feel someone directly put my safety at risk, or
• it shows something that I might have found useful for own learning if I saw it from someone else, or
• it shows something nice and heart-warming, like a lovely ride out on a summer day, or a deer happily avoiding being squashed by a car.

I only report to the police if:

• the driving was sufficiently bad to scare me, or
• there is clear, deliberate bullying or aggression.

I'm afraid that someone using a mobile phone, who does not directly affect me, would not meet any of these criteria, though I might be tempted to submit them to Roadsafe if we had such a thing round here.

Regarding the response of the police officer, I think I would be inclined just to forget it. If the story is as I have understood it from your account, then he was certainly out of order, but is it really worth spending your time on and getting wound up about?

Yes it would be worth my time since i got a formal harassment warning from the guy and this is on police record.